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8 weeks ago I moved from Michigan to Arlington Virginia. I'm a stone's throw from the Pentagon, Arlington National Cemetery, the Air Force Museum, etc., etc.

This place is socialist ground. I adopted a kitten, and the county is all over my butt about it's care. Taxes exist for everything....if you drive a car, there's a county annual tax for 5% of the book/loan value. There's stickers all over my new car for parking, taxes, and inspection. Every buiness is a BIG business, over-priced and completely lacking in basic customer service (I won't even begin the story of just attempting to get Verizon DSL.)

No one (and I've asked just a few, select people) is into shooting. When you ask other people if they've ever gone shooting, they look at you like you're from Mars. I caught about 1 minute of a local schools access programming showing the kids doing a play. It was about the environment, and the horrible damage that plastic shopping bags do to Mother Gaia. Of course, the developmentally disabled female student gave the key-note speech of the play.....very diverse this area is.

Today my brand new gym opened up. I've waited 6 weeks for this place to open, forgoing joining the local Gold's gym. It's called XSport Fitness, and it's not a gym.....it's a night club. The only thing missing was salvia and glitter all over the floor. I swear, there's a bar. It's just like any old bar, with stools, cash-registers, mirrors behind the bar above the cabinets where the liquor bottles should be. The place rocks Katy Perry and Selena Gomez at 130 decibles (at 7am), which shows the videos on their multiple big-screens (which is how I knew who the singers were.) I asked to have the music turned down, and they didn't. There was a dainty, petite little thing wearing one of those little women's excercise halter tops, the kind with the low-cut back, higher in the front to keep chest covered, with thin little shoulder straps that crossed in the back....ya'll know the type. But the guy wearing it had to keep pulling it up in front while he did his chest-presses. He musta got his girl-friends closet confused with his own. I looked dead in his face and laughed, I kid you not.

I think I'll join Golds Gym tomorrow. There's a lot of complaints about the place on the interwebs, saying it's not clean, and there isn't enough bath-salts in the sauna. I think I'll like it.

Folks here are turning on Obama, saying that he's taking the side of big business too often. The cannibals are turning on their own. Yaaaaay!!!

Folks, stay clear of this area unless you have to get a job. Stay where there's pick-ups, snow-mobiles, pony-cars, fresh air, and freedom.:supergrin::supergrin:
 

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Yup, I'm glad I decided not to move back there long ago.
 

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I, too, was recently victim to my gym being turned into a fitness center. Some of the stuff is nice, but they got rid of the round plates I used for deadlifts and the lever to lift one side at a time for adding more weight. I was told I could use a rack and a step that would do the same thing. Tried it, their steps flex greatly under my weight and a few hundred extra pounds. Fail.

Rates went from $25 a month to over $50. Thankfully, I was grandfathered in. I guess I should have bought more months when they had the $15 special.

Sucks.
 

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M&P lots of crazies out this way, but not all of us are. I too am from MI originally, Wayne county..definitely different here. Check out the closest IWLA chapter to you for shooting buddies, and the annual car taxes and stickers are definitely ridiculous. I'm not to far from you, let me know if you want to hit the IWLA in loudoun county.
 

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M&P lots of crazies out this way, but not all of us are. I too am from MI originally, Wayne county..definitely different here. Check out the closest IWLA chapter to you for shooting buddies, and the annual car taxes and stickers are definitely ridiculous. I'm not to far from you, let me know if you want to hit the IWLA in loudoun county.
Sho' 'nuff. What's the IWLA? Oh, and I'm originally from Wayne County myself....Dearborn. Where youze' be from?:rofl:
 

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Grew up in Southgate, lived there until 97..all my family is still there...been in Northern VA since 99. IWLA is the Izaac Walton League of America. www.iwla.org the Loudoun County chapter I'm a member of has skeet, archery ranges, pistol and rifle out to 100 yards, a stocked pond, and just overall good 'ol boy members. i hadn't heard from it until i got here either, but now that i can just go over to my families places and shoot anymore i had to find an alternative..a year membership pays for itself after about 4 trips to the ranges i have close to me here.
 

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Grew up in Southgate, lived there until 97..all my family is still there...been in Northern VA since 99. IWLA is the Izaac Walton League of America. www.iwla.org the Loudoun County chapter I'm a member of has skeet, archery ranges, pistol and rifle out to 100 yards, a stocked pond, and just overall good 'ol boy members. i hadn't heard from it until i got here either, but now that i can just go over to my families places and shoot anymore i had to find an alternative..a year membership pays for itself after about 4 trips to the ranges i have close to me here.
Well, I have a few questions. How much to shoot for a year? Is this the type of place that has "range masters" and such? Are you allowed to move and shoot? Honestly, it looks a bit more like a PAC than a range, based on perusing the web-site.
 

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Well, at least you have a gym!

Since this area is 'so glittery' for ya, c'mon down to Southern Maryland.

Our gym is 'out back', near the barn.

Free weights = 8" cinderblocks or tobacco bales.
Rowing machine = pitching and baling hay, and tending the garden.
Lat machine = pitching tobacco bales to the guy in the top of the barn.
Something to drink = walk over to the cow w/ a cup. (No, M&P, you don't get milk from a bull. Cows have udders.):supergrin:




Just kidding.:supergrin:









It's a shame that Northern Virginia has 'grown' so much.
Personally, I really don't like the roads in N. Va. Too many interchanges and traffic jams.

You should check into the IWLA in that area. I've heard that some of them have really nice ranges. (Nice dues, too!)

Southern Maryland Chapter IWLA dues are $150/yr. - family.
 

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Wow, 3 IWLA memebers. Can ya'll answer those couple of questions I posted earlier? If it's a fun place to go shooting, I'll join.
 

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Well, I have a few questions.

How much to shoot for a year?

Is this the type of place that has "range masters" and such?

Are you allowed to move and shoot?

Honestly, it looks a bit more like a PAC than a range, based on perusing the web-site.

1. Cost of yearly dues at my IWLA. (Range is 100 yards, but, we can shoot 300+ yards.)

2. Not at my IWLA. (Common sense safety rules. You violate - you're out!)

3. Not typically. Our range is an 'informal' rifle/pistol range. You bring your own target stand(s) and bench/table if you want to sight-in.

4. What are you calling a PAC???? (Are you referring to a Political Action Committee?? If so, NO! We are a conservation organization. Period.)


Please note - At my chapter IWLA, we have a minimum work requirement and minimum number of meetings you must attend.
Not to worry. . . we have plenty of work to be done.
We have 141+ acres of farmland, with over 10 acres of that. . . grass that has to be mowed.
 

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1. Cost of yearly dues at my IWLA. (Range is 100 yards, but, we can shoot 300+ yards.)

2. Not at my IWLA. (Common sense safety rules. You violate - you're out!)

3. Not typically. Our range is an 'informal' rifle/pistol range. You bring your own target stand(s) and bench/table if you want to sight-in.

4. What are you calling a PAC???? (Are you referring to a Political Action Committee?? If so, NO! We are a conservation organization. Period.)


Please note - At my chapter IWLA, we have a minimum work requirement and minimum number of meetings you must attend.
Not to worry. . . we have plenty of work to be done.
We have 141+ acres of farmland, with over 10 acres of that. . . grass that has to be mowed.
Wellll....the only part that is a problem for me is the minimum work/meeting requirement. We had one conservation organization like that in SW Michigan, and my Uncle initially joined for a place to go shooting, but didn't stay. Like him, I figure that if I'm going to pay $150 a year (not bad at all), I'm paying for the up-keep of the place. And since I am really only looking for a place to shoot, I'm wondering if the IWLA is right for me.

As far as being a PAC, while the IWLA might not call itself a PAC, does it not fight for land-conservation rights? Possibly politically, and also by it's mere existance? When I checked the web-site, the front page had links to many conservation focused news articles. While the IWLA may not actively lobby in D.C. (or maybe it does?), it appears to be a politically motivated organization. Although I'd bet I would agree with the ideals and focus of the IWLA, I'm not interested in joining a place with manadated meeting and work minimums right now. Maybe later, after I get settled a bit more.
 

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M&P..the chapter i belong to does have an 8 hour work minimum per year, but if you're not interested or don't have the time for that you can "buy" your work day for $65. There are also membership and board meetings monthly but not mandatory for membership.

Dues vary slightly by chapter, and so do the facilities. It's worth at least going over and checking out with a member before you make up your mind.
 

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Earlier this summer I attended a 30 year class reunion of a high school in a medium sized Midwestern city. One of our classmates returned from the DC area and his beuracrat job at some federal housing agency.

He was SHOCKED to hear that some of us voted Republican, did not think highly of the current president and his policies, sometimes watched Fox News, sometimes listened to conservative talk radio shows and even enjoyed the unconventional thinking put forth by Rush Limbaugh specifically.

He was floored that we considered his agency to be a burden on the nations economy. He admitted he had "heard of" the Washington Times" but said he did not know anyone who read it or even considered it real news.

I suggested his life was monastic and that he ought to come and see the real world more often and we all laughed, him nervously.
 

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M&P..the chapter i belong to does have an 8 hour work minimum per year, but if you're not interested or don't have the time for that you can "buy" your work day for $65. There are also membership and board meetings monthly but not mandatory for membership.

Dues vary slightly by chapter, and so do the facilities. It's worth at least going over and checking out with a member before you make up your mind.
Oh, I haven't made-up my mind yet. Something about living here is forcing me to not be so quick to judge people and situations.....it's like a disease of open-mindedness.:rofl:And 8 hours a year minimum is fine, I've seen 8 hours a month elsewhere.

Which IWLA chapter/facility do you belong/go to? Is it close (closest) to Arlington?
 

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I'll keep the lights on at TopGun or Wolverine if you two ever come back for a visit!

I'd have left MI too but I still have a job worth staying for at the moment. Probably will be going to Missouri in the next couple years though. Moving to a new place always is hard but I wish you luck down there! :)
 

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Earlier this summer I attended a 30 year class reunion of a high school in a medium sized Midwestern city. One of our classmates returned from the DC area and his beuracrat job at some federal housing agency.

He was SHOCKED to hear that some of us voted Republican, did not think highly of the current president and his policies, sometimes watched Fox News, sometimes listened to conservative talk radio shows and even enjoyed the unconventional thinking put forth by Rush Limbaugh specifically.

He was floored that we considered his agency to be a burden on the nations economy. He admitted he had "heard of" the Washington Times" but said he did not know anyone who read it or even considered it real news.

I suggested his life was monastic and that he ought to come and see the real world more often and we all laughed, him nervously.
Thank God I moved here at 42 years of age. If I was a youngin', I might be more inclined to adapt to my environment. At this age, I'm just looking around a laughing at this place.
 

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I'll keep the lights on at TopGun or Wolverine if you two ever come back for a visit!

I'd have left MI too but I still have a job worth staying for at the moment. Probably will be going to Missouri in the next couple years though. Moving to a new place always is hard but I wish you luck down there! :)
Me and the ex used to shoot at Top Gun all the time. Too bad Michigan is an economic catastrophe/black hole, I miss my family and friends. Poor Michigan, so beautiful, so tragic. Meh, last one out, shut off the lights.
 

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Northern VA is not like the rest of VA. It's populated by many bureaucrats, lobbyists, politicians and government employees that work in DC every day but won't live there, so they drive a few miles and live in VA where conditions are much better. But they like to bring government with them so they are big on taxes, permits, fees, and regulations on everything so they feel more at home.

Be glad that VA has a preemption law regarding firearms, so Arlington can't pass any firearms restrictions or regulations of it's own, they have to abide by state law. Otherwise Arlington firearm laws would be like DC's.
 

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Northern VA is not like the rest of VA. It's populated by many bureaucrats, lobbyists, politicians and government employees that work in DC every day but won't live there, so they drive a few miles and live in VA where conditions are much better. But they like to bring government with them so they are big on taxes, permits, fees, and regulations on everything so they feel more at home.

Be glad that VA has a preemption law regarding firearms, so Arlington can't pass any firearms restrictions or regulations of it's own, they have to abide by state law. Otherwise Arlington firearm laws would be like DC's.
I keep hearing about California being bad firearms-wise. They have nothing on DC. Friggin' bureaucrats.
 
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