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Discussion in 'GSSF' started by NDGlock, Oct 20, 2010.
Now I think I need one....
I had that thought, too.
Until I owned one.
Then I sold it.
I would like to shoot one, but I think I would think the same thing. And I don't know that I need the itch to buy one.
Care to expand on that? Maybe you will be able to save someone else some time, money, and grief.
Boy did you screw up BAD.
Those things are like Lays Tater Chips...... can't shoot just 1.
Welcome to the Cult...... when you get one.
Need one? Nope. There are many better handguns.
Want one? By all means.
Plus side: Accurate--fixed barrel, really nice trigger.
Down side: Not a range round eater--heats up real quick and gets hot to handle.
Too me the plus side >> than the minus side.
it's the only 9mm worth owning
Ignore the naysayers, you do need one.
You also need an expensive, exotic leather holster for it.
Pros- Accurate. Inherently a very safe design. Slim and easy to carry. The police trade in's are not all that expensive and other models (M8, M10, M13, K3) hold their higher value extremely well.
Cons- Parts are rare and expensive and the pistol itself is very difficult to work on yourself. Magazines are also expensive. Pistol heats up during extended firing, it's not a range gun. A certain amount of TLC is needed to keep them running properly, it's not a Glock.
They are really great pistols, but be aware of what your getting into.
I really like the P7 as well, but I don't know if I would go that far.
Few people like P7 of the bat. People don't realize it takes different pressure to squeeze the lever than to keep it squeezed. They choke the grip to death, naturally taking all the fun out of exercise. Its a solid gun but rusts easy and is a bit too expensive for what it is. Still, impeccable engineering.
Some like 'em and some don't. You have to remember the context of when they came out. At the time, it was the slimmest, shortest service-sized pistol around. The gas retarded and squeeze-cocking action was unique. The low bore axis reduced muzzle flip and the fixed barrel helped make it very accurate. It achieved cult status early on (much like our beloved Glock) and will likely maintain it for quite a while.
It's demise, due mainly to the rise of the 'wundernine', meant that it would never appear commercially as a 45ACP. I still believe that a run in 45 would sell well, even at the price they'd have to ask.
"Need" is a relative term.
If you're bound and determined to buy one, get a P7M8. They have a heat shield, and the mag release is at the base of the trigger guard, similar to the mag release on the USP.
My BIL went through a training course with his P7M8 and regretted it. The small slide chewed up his hand during drills, and even with the heat shield, it heated up quite a bit. He now carries a Sig, the flavor of which escapes me at the moment.
I've owned a P7M8 (which was stolen) and a P7 (which I sold). I still wish I had the P7M8, but don't regret selling the P7. Great pistols to be sure, but the novelty does wear off after awhile.
THanks all for the balanced replies! Perhaps it was a crush at first shot group! I'll have to play with one some more to see...but I do like how easy it was to be accurate with it....but yeah, when comparing capacity, mag cost, complexity etc...there probably are better designs out there.
Well it is a very unique pistol with a unique manual of arms. Because of this and the fact that they are no longer made, there is at least a bit of "collector" aspect in owning one.
"Better" is a very relative term.
After I said all that, if I had cash in hand and you threw that pistol in my face wanting to sell it, I'd probably get weak-kneed and buy it. That's a gorgeous pistol.
I can confirm this statement...great looking setup.
Tripps' hardchromed, brushed with polished flats... you just can't get that anymore.
Under the hood...
They are sweet,.......just picked one up this week.