[HKLovingIT]

This out yet? Anyone own one?

Yes I know this is Glocktalk. :supergrin:

Hopefully this goofy link to S&W works...

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...57781_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

 

[bac1023]

I'm not sure if its out, but hopefully, its better quality than the Sig Mosquito or Walther P22.

Frankly, there are just too many long proven rimfire pistols on the market in the same price range. I'd go with a Ruger Mark series or Browning Buckmark.

 

[Bruce M]

Smith and Wesson at least at one point did understand the desirability of a .22 understudy of a service handgun but its not like they invented the .22 handgun or anything...

 

[vantage]

I've got to agree with Bac. I haven't been impressed with the sized-down 22 options, especially compared to accurate, reliable and time-tested options like the Ruger and Browning.

 

[michael e]

It looks good. I don't own any of the M&P series but if did would get one to go along with it.

 

[evilspringer]

Vance's in Columbus Ohio has them in this months sale flyer for $379

 

[up1911fan]

It's my understanding that it's basically a Walther P22 inside. No grip inserts either. Just a P22 made to look like an M&P.

 

[dakrat]

I hope S&W pulls this one off. the market is overdue for a decent looking .22 pistol. Sig mosquito has a high dissatisfaction rate. Ruger and Browning looks like alien slaying pistols (men in black) :supergrin:

 

[Bruce M]

It's my understanding that it's basically a Walther P22 inside. No grip inserts either. Just a P22 made to look like an M&P.

Sigh. If so it is a shame that the same folks that brought us the Target Masterpiece and the K22 Masterpiece would offer something like this to accompany the new M&P.

 

[Mixednuts]

It's my understanding that it's basically a Walther P22 inside. No grip inserts either. Just a P22 made to look like an M&P.

I hate to say it but he's right. It's even made by Walther.

 

[austin_tx]

I hate to say it but he's right. It's even made by Walther.

If it is indeed a P22 with M&P clothing, it's not made by Walther. The P22 isn't made by Walther, either. It's made by Umarex.

 

[Mixednuts]

If it is indeed a P22 with M&P clothing, it's not made by Walther. The P22 isn't made by Walther, either. It's made by Umarex.

D'oh forgot about that. Walther 'collaborated' with S&W on the design and production of the M&P22. The result is something that internally is near identical to the P22 complete with the pot metal slide.

 

[vantage]

I hope S&W pulls this one off. the market is overdue for a decent looking .22 pistol. Sig mosquito has a high dissatisfaction rate. Ruger and Browning looks like alien slaying pistols (men in black) :supergrin:

Not all of them:

 

[Skunk Pilot]

D'oh forgot about that. Walther 'collaborated' with S&W on the design and production of the M&P22. The result is something that internally is near identical to the P22 complete with the pot metal slide.

Not true. It's actually Aluminum.


I handled one this past weekend at the range and it was very similar feeling to regular M&P (I just got done shooting my M&P9L). Probably the medium size grip though, but not an exact match to the M&P 9/40 full size frame, but seemed very close with the grip.

There were A LOT of skeptical people at first, but for really good reasons. I think the people that bought them before they got their hands on them first were taking a risk since Walther made them. I am seriously considering buying one though, after reading a few forum topics. But I'd like to see how low you can get the trigger pull, it was pretty high. Of course I have a M&P with the Apex FSS & Trigger around 3.5 lbs and want to go to 2 lbs. Hopefully my friend will get his hands on one soon so I can test them out. I like my Buckmark though, but this would be nice. Even if Apex Tactical comes out with a M&P .22 conversion in 8 months to 2 years.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=69145

http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?/topic/29345-mp-22/

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/205157-m-p-22-arrived.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/215924-m-p-22-update.html

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/12/20/sw-mp22-22-pistol/#comments

 

[ronin.45]

I agree with BAC and Vantage, there are too many good .22s to worry about a lookalike. These downsized copies and even conversion kits have too many problems to be worth the hassle. For every one that runs flawlessly there seem to be half a dozen that suck.

 

[Cole125]

If you want a .22 lr that looks and feels just like a service handgun, a Advantage Arms conversion kit for a Glock or 1911 is the way to go. Very high quality and with the right ammo, nearly 100 percent reliable.

I agree with others that the Ruger MK series is hard to beat too.

 

[DEADEYEGUY]

Read somewhere UMAREX bought Walther. Except for the P22's and S&W "Walthers" the standard Wathers are made by them. But the P22 and a couple of the new 1911's out there are also being made by UMAREX. From what I've read they started off making airsoft guns in China. Doesn't inspire allot of confidenc in there products. Had both a SIG Mosquito and P22. Learned my lesson about ZYMAK (zinc) pistols. Sure as hell not a Ruger MK series, Browning Buckmark, or Colt Woodsman. Not even close.

 

[BudMan5]

I have an M&P 9 that is my everyday carry and also my "service" pistol in the prepper armory. I bought an M&P 22 as soon as they were available because i do a lot of taching to new firearms shooters and wanted something similar to my M&P 9.

With the exception of the safety and the weight, it is just about identical to the my full size M&P 9. There are no changeable grip inserts. It appears to me that the grip size is the same as the medium grip I use on the 9. The barrel is threaded but i live in Illinois so I can not have a silencer.

Until I move.

Firing it is a joy and a pain. By jouy, it fired CCI and Federal without a failure of any type and it is right on the money all the way out to 25 meters. Having all the success with the Federal and the CCI I decided to see how many Remington's would fire until a dud or failute to feed.

I am still waiting because it fired about 50 straight rounds of Remington without any problem at all. I immediately ran out and bought a lottery ticket because I figured I was "golden". (Sorry, it was there so I took the shot)

The pain? It only comes with one magazine of 10 rounds. It got frustrating to have to keep loading and after about 200 rounds or so it also go painful.

I usually use small dessert sized paper plates mounted on cardboard with staples because I am cheap. This time, I had two vertical rows of five each so I started doing double taps on the lower plate and a single 'head" shot to the plate right above it. I started doing this a lot so just for the heck of it, I unholstered my M&P 9 from my super tuck and shoved the M&P 22 i (fit perfect) and started doing draw and fire exercises using a double tap to the triangle with a single head shot.

I could not stop and now I am freaking in love because I blew about 400 rounds of ammo doing immediate action drills and that was less then $20.

I can't believe I made a really good, sensible firearm buy.

I wish Glock would come out with something similar and in the Glock 19 size.

 

[HKLovingIT]

I have an M&P 9 that is my everyday carry and also my "service" pistol in the prepper armory. I bought an M&P 22 as soon as they were available because i do a lot of taching to new firearms shooters and wanted something similar to my M&P 9.

With the exception of the safety and the weight, it is just about identical to the my full size M&P 9. There are no changeable grip inserts. It appears to me that the grip size is the same as the medium grip I use on the 9. The barrel is threaded but i live in Illinois so I can not have a silencer.

Until I move.

Firing it is a joy and a pain. By jouy, it fired CCI and Federal without a failure of any type and it is right on the money all the way out to 25 meters. Having all the success with the Federal and the CCI I decided to see how many Remington's would fire until a dud or failute to feed.

I am still waiting because it fired about 50 straight rounds of Remington without any problem at all. I immediately ran out and bought a lottery ticket because I figured I was "golden". (Sorry, it was there so I took the shot)

The pain? It only comes with one magazine of 10 rounds. It got frustrating to have to keep loading and after about 200 rounds or so it also go painful.

I usually use small dessert sized paper plates mounted on cardboard with staples because I am cheap. This time, I had two vertical rows of five each so I started doing double taps on the lower plate and a single 'head" shot to the plate right above it. I started doing this a lot so just for the heck of it, I unholstered my M&P 9 from my super tuck and shoved the M&P 22 i (fit perfect) and started doing draw and fire exercises using a double tap to the triangle with a single head shot.

I could not stop and now I am freaking in love because I blew about 400 rounds of ammo doing immediate action drills and that was less then $20.

I can't believe I made a really good, sensible firearm buy.

I wish Glock would come out with something similar and in the Glock 19 size.

Sounds good. I have a couple Mosquitoes, and they are okay but not great in many ways. I'm a sucker for .22 pistols though. Think I'll give this a try at some point.

 

[txgunguy]

It's my understanding that it's basically a Walther P22 inside. No grip inserts either. Just a P22 made to look like an M&P.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

My 15-22 has been an awesome gun. It was a first gen and had a KB, but smith made it right, and quickly. That was 2 years ago and I've put thousands of trouble free rounds through it since. I just took it out yesterday actually.

I was looking forward to a Smith 22 pistol with the same reliability as my 15-22 :crying: