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Low approach

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by thonl, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. thonl

    thonl Millennium Member

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    I've posted this on GT before, but thought the people that frequent this forum might enjoy it if they hadnt seen it before.

    This was taken by a guy I work with as an NWA plane was on final into MSP. They normally pass overhead our building at 4-500 feet, but my co-worker saw this guy coming in low and ran out into the parking lot and snapped this pic.

    The building is located here and when the planes pass over Hwy 13, the ground falls away into the river valley about 3-400 feet, so he had some room to make it up, but I would have seriously been crapping nickels if I had been on this flight looking out the window
     
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    Photoshop

    Take a look at the cheap shadows underneath the jet in the grass. Another clue, look at the most distant trees in the lower left. Notice how sharp the lines are even at that distance? Now look at the outlines of the jet, the edges are a little fuzzy everywhere even it's much closer than the distant trees.
     

  3. thonl

    thonl Millennium Member

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    Not a photoshop. I have the full res photo if you'd like to take a closer look
     
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    I've seen lower approaches than that ;f

    And its not all that uncommon to see aircraft a "tad bit" under the GS at certain fields, I grew up off the north end of 19R MKE. There is a hill that slopes up about 100' streaching a good 3/4 mile from the numbers and it is not all that rare to see larger aircraft in ground effect all the way down that hill. Freaks out the people driving along both the road at the top & bottom of the hill, you should see the looks on their faces......Errrrr.........not that I have seen them.
    (tip-toes away before the Feds notice)
     
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    Ummm, was the building constructed next to a very active airport?
     
  6. thonl

    thonl Millennium Member

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    It is under the flight path for planes either taking off from, or on final into Minneapolis/St. Paul International. Zoom out on the mapquest link a couple of clicks and you can see the runways lined up with the location that the photo was taken.

     
  7. Texas T

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    The A/C looks to be at no more than a couple hundred feet up and the runway is a minimum of 2 miles from the building according to your map. That just doesn't jive.
     
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    thonl:

    I can't find the mapquest link you referred to but what building is that and what is the address. I fly A-320's (like the one shown-actually I have flown that particular one) in and out of MSP all the time and for the life of me, I can't visualize that building.



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    thonl Millennium Member

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    In my original post, where it says 'The building is located here...' The word 'here' is the link
     
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    With a standard 3 degree glide slope, 2 miles x (300 feet per mile} = 600 feet above the touchdown zone elevation. Subtract building & terrain elevations and you'll have the actual aircraft height above obstacles or ground.

    The East side of the river that runs perpendicular to the approach is higher than the airport's elevation. From the Mapquest link this looks like KMSPs 30L runway.

    The minimum certification clearance criteria for the various segments of an approach may be found in the FAAs TERPS manual.
     
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    The good ol' Hong Kong curve...............To bad they closed it.




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    Sinister Angel I'd Hit It!

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    ;z

    So have any pilots bit the dust trying to squeeze their bird into that place?
     
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    Any pilot that has flown the curve will be good friends with the "Turn Right" panels on Ho Man Tin hill seen in this pic:
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    AKA "OH-MOUN-TAIN!" ;P hill

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    Notice the approach lighting mounted to the building on the last one
     
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    HKMark23 Millennium Member

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    And if you think they are photoshop look at these:
    The first is about 420k the rest are about 1.3m

    <A HREF="http://forum.nifty.com/fworld/airline/mpeg/kowloon.mpg">VID1</A>

    <A HREF="http://forum.nifty.com/fworld/airline/mpeg/qf.mpg">VID2</A>

    <A HREF="http://forum.nifty.com/fworld/airline/mpeg/cx.mpg">VID3</A>

    Except this one which is about 3m but worth it!
    <A HREF="http://www.aviationexplorer.com/movies/Airplane_747Crosswind.mpg">VID4</A>
     
  16. thonl

    thonl Millennium Member

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    The first time I ever travelled to SE Asia, I flew in to Kai Tak at about 9PM on a NWA 747. Quite the experience when you arent expecting all the twists and turns.
     
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    This is what I call a "low approach"!!
     
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    The trick on the Kai Tek approach is to roll into the turning descent using the VASI. If you did a level turn there because of being so close to the buildings, you will be VERY steep when rolling out on final.

    I have seen the TV sets on through apartment windows while making this turn.
     
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