How many lives have been saved by loud pipes? I can't stand to hear them. My ears can detect each 1% of throttle opening. Why do people think that they're cool? I have a pipe on my bike, but it's quiet. It doesn't offend anyone. I've asked the Harley guys that I work with. While they prefer Harley's, they had no problem with the sound of my bike. Ok, I'm off of my soap box.