Couple of days ago I was at the local post office and a friend of mine came in to see the postmaster (another friend and fellow shooter) The friend who came for the visit had his camcorder with him and he invited me and the postmaster to see what he'd shot (with the camcorder) the day before. Looked like a scene from one of those hunting shows, but unlike anything that I've ever seen. Video guy was shooting from a treestand just inside a scope of woods that overlooked a pasture/feedplot. There must have been thirty or forty deer scampering around, including several nice bucks. He had young bucks playfully fighting, large bucks chasing does around, etc. We could also hear deer walking around under his tree stand. Hey, you tree stand hunters can rationalize (as is going on in another thread) about how difficult deer "hunting" is, but you're just fooling yourselves. Sitting in that stand, the friend could have taken a deer at any time, with no effort. Several would have been easy handgun shots. I don't have any moral conflicts about hunting, as I've hunted all my life, but deer "hunting" out of a stand just plain ain't hunting! If deer stand "hunting" were so difficult, 7-yr.old girls with SKS's wouldn't be bringing down those big bucks every year around here. Gimmme a break! Maybe you feel "primitive" or "manly" or something, but there is little-to-no skill required to take a deer, shooting from a damn stand at the riduculously close distances that folks generally shoot deer from stands.