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Lot of questions about joining millitary

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by harleyfx69, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. harleyfx69

    harleyfx69

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    As the title says, i have a lot of questions about joining the millitary,
    i will try to break them down into single questions for ease of reply,

    I am college educated, with a 120 credit hour bachelor of science degree, my GPA is standard, nothing off the charts in either direction, ive also got progress towards a masters if that helps things,

    Say for the army, if i went enlisted, which rank would i be generally eligible for,

    and would i also be eligible for officers candidacy school ? and im guessing if i passed that and qualified successfully i could have the potential to be the O-1 category officer ?

    for enlisted, what would my starting pay approximately be,

    after service, would the government / vet health care apply for the rest of my life and my dependents ?

    does the millitary provide everything you need once you get to basic training ?

    Are you allowed to keep your cell phone / laptop during your basic, or would they go into a storage box until your finished,

    when you go to basic, is it advisable to take a vehicle with you? or at any point during the 4-5 year is it good to have a vehicle,

    after your basic training and specialized training, where do you go after this ?

    what do you do after your training,

    at what point can you expect to be deployed, and for how long would it potentially be,

    if something does happen to be while deployed, if i am killed will the military still provide medical coverage to my dependents, and will there also be a monetary settlement / insurance for this ?

    if i am disabled will my family be provided a monetary amount to cover what i will no longer be able to provide,

    during basic and other training, are basic / generic sunglasses allowed to be used / worn during daylight hours, i ask this because my eyes are fairly sensitive to light,

    for training and entry testing, i am guessing they would like me to be in top physical shape focusing on cardio first, and then basic strength after that ?

    as far as my girlfriend goes, would it be better to leave her at home and visit during leave, get her an apartment near the base that i would be stationed at, what benefits would marriage give to this ?

    also what are the m16 / m9 quals done at range and condition wise,

    and where is basic training completed at,

    i am sure i will come up with more questions that i would like to know the answers of, but that is all i can think off the top of my head,

    and thanks in advance
     
  2. raven11

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    Advice from an Airman

     

  3. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    Specialist/E-4 would be your starting enlisted rank.

    Yep, if you qualify physically, test scores, background, etc.

    Base pay, starting would be $1,889.70 a month, plus all the other stuff that adds on it.

    Yes, except for little things like soap, toothpaste, etc.

    No. It would be boxed until you are finished. You wouldn't want to even have a laptop with you.
    You can't taker a vehicle to basic training.
    Wherever you want, if you get it guaranteed - wherever the Army wants if you don't.
    Continue to train unless deployed to a combat zone or given some other mission.
    Anywhere from basic graduation to never. It's hard to say, but if you want to go I have a feeling you need to sign up soon. I believe we now have a maximum 12 month "boots on ground" deployment rule, but you can sometimes volunteer for more, depending on your job.
    My life insurance + death gratuity while deployed was $400,000. Yes, dependants would get coverage but I'm not sure what all that is or how long.
    You'd get a VA disability pension - anyhwere from a small check ofr damaged hearing to 100%.
    NO (not during basic - after basic you can wear anything that meets the regs).
    Not that important, basic training will get you in shape, but if you can run a mile or 2 and do a few pushups and situps it would be a big help. Many can't - they get over it.
    You would not see her during basic training. After basic training, it's up to you, but you aren't going to get permission to live off post with her (and the money that goes with that) unless you are married.

    M-16 qualification is 50-300 meters. Basic trainees, other than some jobs that have OSUT, do not qualify with the M9. When you do qualify with a pistol, it will be 5-25 meters (mayeb 35?). Conditions are whatever they are - they don't wait for a nice day (or night).
    Ft. Knox, KY; Ft. Jackson, SC; Ft. Sill, OK; or Ft. Leonard Wood, MO.
     
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  4. harleyfx69

    harleyfx69

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    the cartoon is funny,

    and thanks for the reply's,

    so how is the chow ?

    and i guess how would the questions apply if i went airforce, or is it the same basic thing?
     
  5. joecoastie

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    :rofl::rofl:

    That cartoon is hilarious, and sadly close to the truth, I've known some married E2s and E3s.
     
  6. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Bigfoot enthusiast enthusiast

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    joinng the airforce is almost like being in the Military
     
  7. raven11

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    same concept , different implementation

    the level of B.S. is the same , the difference is here is a army barrack

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    here is the room when i put on E-3 - no roomate bathroom, bedroom, kitchen , living room , dining area
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  8. blueiron

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    It is essentially one step above or below being a Federal prison inmate, depending on what the detail or training is in basic.

    It is not a job, contrary to what the ads say. It is a total lifestyle and they tell you what your lifestyle is, where you can live it, and nearly everything else about how it is to be lived.

    Go talk to a recruiter and ask about lifestyle issues. Based on your concerns expressed in your questions. you probably won't care for the lack of independence.
     
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  9. Surt

    Surt Jötunn-Kin

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    I just want to throw in that I've got privates coming in now, telling me they were allowed to keep their cellphones in their wall lockers, provided they weren't caught with them during duty hours.

    My first thought was that when I went through, it was ALWAYS "Duty Hours" at basic. It's got to be a looooooong ways away from what it was like when I went through, that's for sure. Other than that, everything Bren has said seems consistent with what I've been hearing from our FNGs.

    Oh, and I've been told the Army no longer covers hearing loss unless the result of a single incident, I.E., IED blast. Gradual loss is no longer covered.
     
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  10. zackwatt

    zackwatt That's a Bingo! Lifetime Member

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    Go to an Officer school and become an Officer...

    You already have one major hurdle completed, a college degree.

    ...also you will get paid more at your lowest point then 90% of enlisted.

    and choose the Air Force.
     
  11. devildog2067

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    @ raven11

    Wow. Are you serious? That looks like a condo. I'm not that old, but man. I lived in a squad bay with 42 other guys.
     
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  12. raven11

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    i'm serious , I put on E-3 a week before and i was moved to a new building


    i thought it was normal

    i also can take pictures of the bathroom and showers if you guys want
     
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  13. bennwj

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    Others gave you some great advice.

    If you are tasting the food you are eating way too slowly.

    Actually the food is really good.

    Take your college transcripts to a recruiter (all of them Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force) and see what they offer.

    Just take some advice that has alread been given and make sure you are in reasonable shape. If you are not....you will receive "assistance" getting there.
     
  14. bennwj

    bennwj Command Sergeant Major (retired) Silver Member

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    Cellphones are authorized for use after passing Basic Rifle Marksmanship in the evenings only. All AITs allow use of cell phones.
     
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    Brother, you have no IDEA. After my years of active duty in the Corps I have crossed over into the blue (Air Guard) and it is night and day. Going TDY in the Air Force is a vacation compared to going with the USMC.

    Knowing what I know now, I would have went into the Air Force first. I loved my time in the Corps, my time as a machinegunner will for ever stick in my mind, but this Air Force gig is outstanding. Quality of life, the way you are treated, its heads and shoulders above the Army and Marines.

    Good luck in whatever decision you make. But the only right decision is to go Officer.

    Enlisted Aplcr.
     
  16. yerscattergun

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    Don't go enlisted! You have worked hard for that degree, make it
    payoff for you. If you go enlisted, you will be saluting officers that
    have the same education you do.
     
  17. zackwatt

    zackwatt That's a Bingo! Lifetime Member

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    Most enlisted these days have degrees, it's just not a requirement.
     
  18. Blitzer

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    I have been out of the Air Force since 1979.

    I can say in my experience the Veteran's Services Medical system (formerly known as the VA) sucks swamp water up it's sphincter though a drinking straw. :steamed:

    I have a family history of serious heart troubles on both sides of my family. Even after reporting that to the VA systems their so called doctors insisted on giving me Motron for 20 years. Because no doctor would give me more effective pain medicine for a back and hip injury I incurred while on active duty! Taking Motron and a having family history of heart problems are not supposed to happen! :shocked:

    The hip was weakened by a birth defect. They say they have no idea how my hip Displasia, a defect that they missed on my entrance exam, could have happened? It is now totally worn out and has destroyed my pelvic socket. And they refuse to give me a disability rating for the hip condition.

    My heart started into congestive failure five years ago. Two years ago, under the care of these fine physicians, I gained 15 pounds of water, my legs swelled up like the MICHILLIAN MAN, I could barely breath, and I finally checked myself into a local ER and they couldn't believe I drove myself to the hospital! I was so near death it amazed them I functioned at all! :wow:

    This nearly killed me.

    Only after the civilian doctors came up with a new treatment plan did I start getting better and maintain a symbolance of health, I am still only at 30% heart function after the whole affair! And my hip has made me a gimp and due to an additional injury a few years ago the State Workman's comp is managing my pain medications and wants to replace my hip, which they cannot due to my weakened heart. :dunno:

    So that is how the VA takes care of me as a Veteran! :fist:
     
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  19. WarCry

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    I agree with the taste. I think the days of "sh** on a shingle" are in the past. The food tends to be a bit industrial, but what do you expect with thousands of meals in a day?

    I will say, I deployed with our Headquarters Company in Germany, so we got the battalion cooks with us in Mobile Kitchen Trailers. When they could cook more individualized food (like, maybe 100 guys and gals)....like a little piece of heaven. Best damn fried chicken I've ever had.

    My advice for basic would probably be to not expect it to be like a job. It's not going to be cushy. Pretty sure you aren't allowed to have a privately owned vehicle (used to be that way, anyhow). I'm pretty surprised they let them have cellphones. Personally, I wouldn't take anything I was concerned about losing. You'd like to think everyone there is a good guy, but how much are you willing to bet on it?

    I did just read something that said the military was changing to more sprint-style or short distance running rather than the 5-mile runs. Better or worse, who knows.


    I also heard they were ditching bayonet training. I know it's archaic, but that was one of my favorite parts of basic!
     
  20. Glocks&Ducs

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    Most? Hardly. I agree that many enlisted take the time to take classes towards a degree, and many wind up getting one eventually if they made a the military a career. But the majority of people going enlisted are still straight out of high school. If you go talk to any recruiter, I am willing to bet that easily 70% or more of his enlisted pool is made up of high school seniors.