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looking for a S&W 627 in Philippines

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by antediluvianist, Jul 23, 2006.

  1. antediluvianist

    antediluvianist

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    Has anyone seen a Smith&Wesson 627 revolver in any gunshop in town (.357, 8-shots)?

    Oh well, will ask my secretary to start calling all the shops in our BOG directory of gunstores.
     
  2. jundeleon

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    I inquired about that gun at Sigcomm Wagenhaus a few months ago.
    Sigcomm Wagenhaus is the exclusive distributor of Smith and Wesson here in the Philippines.

    The sales personnel said the Model 627 is a Performance Center product and is sold on order basis. The price is about Php 120,000 I think.

    Sigcomm Wagenhous holds office in a building beside Maalikaya Health Complex. I believe the area is familiar to a lot of BOGs.
     

  3. antediluvianist

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    Maalikaya...that brings back memories...it still exists, huh? Many of my foreign business visitors used to go there.

    Thanks for the info about the S&W 627. And Maalikaya.
     
  4. asian_glockster

    asian_glockster Hook Up!!!!!!!!

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    Try Twin Pines. I saw one.. But it came from S & W Performance Center. Around 100t during gunshow
     
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    antediluvianist are you my professor that has that sweet 7 shot 357 S&W? Now you're looking for an extra shot?

    :supergrin: Why torture yourself, get a 1911 and you can have as much as 19 rounds in the mag and one in the chamber!!! hehehe!!! Sir, how have you been? When would you like to go to MCS, I'll let you shoot my gun, maybe I can convince you to get a 1911. Hope to hear from you....unless of course I guessed wrong ;)
     
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    College Reunion tayo sa maalikaya woohoo!!

    joke , curious lang ako kung ano meron dun
     
  7. antediluvianist

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  8. asian_glockster

    asian_glockster Hook Up!!!!!!!!

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    I think you will be using either half moon or full moon clips if you're going to use the 627 sir...
     
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    bikethief itchy trigger

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    One of my friends got a 627 performance center from twinpines for 84k plus licensing. Ganda nun!
     
  10. antediluvianist

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    Ah yes, that's right. comes drilled for moonclips. Forgot about that.

    here's a pasage from a review of the 627 :

    "The Model 627-5 also comes with three full-moon clips for eight rounds of .357 ammo. They worked and ejected well, but I can't say they sped up the reload all that much. It seems the long length of the .357 Magnum cases more or less worked against a quick, speedy reload. While it was faster than loading each round individually, it wasn't as fast as reloading a conventional six-shot Model 27 with a standard speedloader. I soon found I preferred to leave the full-moon clips in the bright aluminum Performance Center case the gun was shipped in."

    Hmmmm.
     
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    How are loaded moon clips designed to be carried?

    Wont these bend when inside a bag or belt pouch?
     
  12. antediluvianist

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    Haven't carried moonclips but my HK speedloaders are carried inside round, fairly rigid pouches, so I suppose that's how moonclips could be carried too.

    jundeleon, you own a 686+ too, per your signature ; so do you use HK speedloaders or something else? Personally for a shooting session at a range I don't bother with speedloaders. They are just there in the immensely unlikely scenario of a real confrontation someday. They came as part of a nice package when I bought my 686+ from a BOG.

    What I really want to get is the "Longwitz Hardia" (a German company) spring-assisted speedloader made for the 7-shot 686+

    It's called the : "Longwitz SL-Variant III Safety Speedloader, number 72" .

    Longwitz Hardia has a good website, with an English version, http://www.longwitz-waffenpflege.com/shop/index_e.php (register as Guest and then click on "Longwitz SL-Variant speedloader & RQS-set", then click on "Longwitz SL-Variant III Safety Speedloader, number 72" .
    They do mail orders. I have some relatives in Germany, so I'll just bug them some day to mail me two of the Longwitz speedloaders , to be sure they get here. 25 euros, about $32, each, plus shipping. In a gunfight, they would make all the difference since the HK speedloaders are not exactly speedy, or maybe you have practiced a lot so they are.
     
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    Ante

    The 686+ in my sig is still in the "coming soon" part of my sig, which means my purchase of that gun is still in the future.

    Actually you beat me to Hermo's gun. So I have to wait a while before I get myself one.

    I am looking at a 6shooter 686 (no plus) or a 627 if the price would be forgiving. I read somewhere that the 7 shooters have some sort of timing problems and speed loaders are hard to come by.

    Anyway, when I do get SW 357magnum (6 or 8 shooter) it would serve as back up house gun to my USP Tactical (I believe you still have a usp albeit in a not so good condition).
     
  14. antediluvianist

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    "I read somewhere that the 7 shooters have some sort of timing problems and speed loaders are hard to come by."

    HK, Longwitz , Maxifire (the rubber speedloaders) and I believe Safariland make 7-shooter speedloaders that fit the S&W 686Plus, the Taurus 7-shooter (don't remember the model number), and whatever other 7-shooters are out there.

    7-shooters were made to emulate the 7-round capacity of the 1911's magazine. Of course in the 1911, you can also have a round in the chamber if you carry/store it that way.

    Re: going out of time , well there are posts of all sorts on various forums about every conceivable topic. Actually, the more rounds are in the revolver cylinder, other things being about equal- and things are equal framewise/sizewise etc. between the 686 and the 686Plus - the shorter is the the trigger pull - the rounds are closer together in the cylinder. Best way to look at it is this : let's say the revolver cylinder has only TWO holes in it. So, you have to roll the cylinder all the way around 180 degress to get to the second round. That's a long trigger pull, and the point is that the greater momentum of the cylinder in such a long, fast roll is harder to stop than if it's a shorter-distance roll to the next round, and so the wear on the parts that move the cylinder around and stop it and hold it in precise alignment is greater. Owners have posted that the 627's trigger pull is relatively short for this reason.

    Also, the cuts in the cylinder for the 7-shooter are IN BETWEEN the holes, whereas for the 686 6-shooter the cuts are right on top of the holes; many posters have stated that therefore the 7-shooter's cylinder is stronger.

    Lastly, odd-round capacity (5 and 7 -shooters) revolvers are no different from even-capacity (6 and 8- shooters) revolvers. Personally, I'd rather have more rounds than less - speedloaders are not really that fast except for people like Miculek.. Some traditionalists prefer 6-shooters because of..well... tradition.

    Anyway, good luck on whatever S&W you eventually get, 686 or 627 or whatever. Either is worthy of being fondled.
     
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