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This won't seem like a typical Project Mayhem post, but I'm gonna post it here anyway, because I don't want to read all the dumb-**** posts that I'd see in the public forums. Additionally, I know TD is "one of those".

(Edit: SON OF A *****! I can't put the thread title in all caps!) :steamed:

About 13 years ago, these two dorks wearing ties rang my doorbell. I knew who they were by their nametags, but I've never held religion against anyone, so I let them in, offered them coffee, cokes, or water. They chose water.

I let them tell me their spiel, and I told them mine. We knelt and prayed to Heavenly Father together, and they went on their way.

A few days later, they showed up again, and we discussed religion briefly, then got into talking about martial arts. We knelt and prayed together, and they went on their way.

This became a regular occurrence, though they knew I didn't want to join their church, and I knew they weren't going to pressure me into anything. They were cool young men. My wife and I both enjoyed their company when they were around. My wife isn't into religion at all, but I have always found it fascinating.

I moved into another house and didn't see those guys again.

About ten years ago these two hot chicks with long dresses and black name tags knocked on my door. Of course, I invited them in, and they were much more passionate about their religion than the guys from a few years earlier. So I listened to their stories, they gave me literature, and I read every word of it. There was that part about "pray to Heavenly Father and ask him to show you if this book is true" (something like that). So I prayed, and nothing happened.

My wife and I both enjoyed their company, and it was nice to have guests who wouldn't drink my coffee, cokes, beer, or whiskey, so we told them that they were welcome anytime.

When they returned, they asked about it, and I told them that I did, and nothing happened. They said you gotta pray with an open heart. I took this to mean that if I really wanted to hear from God, that I would, even though it may only be a product of my imagination. I tabled that for later.

They gave me all sorts of literature, invited me to attend services with them on Sundays, and all sorts of cool things. I read all the literature, "Marvelous Work and Wonder", "Pearl Necklace", "Pulp Fiction", and, of course, "The Book of Mormon". I actually read the BoM a few times because it was interesting as hell.

What struck me as strange, was how Joseph Smith was visited by humanoids with transporter technology, in his primitive American bedroom.

As I read his account of how the bright lights appeared and this guy then appeared from them, I could hear the trilling/buzzing sound of the transporter from Star Trek. I thought that was cool as hell.

The other times he was visited, it also seemed like something from Star Trek.

The "plates" which he had to translate may well have been some sort of digital storage media.

So the poor bastard was duped by aliens, visitors from the future, or perhaps from another dimension. He spent his life being tormented by these high-tech jokers, and ultimately died because of it.

Damn those rogue federation outlaws who ignore the prime directive!


Anyway, I was invited to be baptized into their church, but my heart could never be in it, and I'd always consider myself a liar for telling people that I believe in something which I don't. My wife said she reckons there are plenty of members who don't truly believe, but just put on a facade so that they can have the benefits of membership.

No one can deny that when it's the end of the world as we know it, it would be a good time to be a Mormon.

As an aside, I ran into one of the missionaries a few years ago. He got a job as a roustabout on a rig I was working on. He was a cool kid.
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· AAAAAAAAGHHH!!!
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I coulda been a Mormon, 'cause my mom grew up surrounded by 'em. Coulda been a Mexican too, 'cause my Grandpa has had some workin' on the ranch. But I ain't... Got an Uncle who converted to get married though.

I've had some real good LDS friends through the years, finest, most solid, fun, clear thinking Americans that I've had the pleasure to know. Not sure what comes next, but they make great neighbors here on the rock. Got nothing but respect for their attitudes and approach to life. Prolly do me a lotta good to fall in, but I've never been much of a joiner. TD's hunches about the Cat'lics were right. They dipped me too a long time ago, parent's doin'...
 

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"Pearl Necklace"

:rofl:

Pearl of Great Price... yeah, we have an odd canon of scripture. I'm surprised to hear that you actually read the Book of Mormon, that's cool.

Part of me wishes I'd served a mission, but I just didn't have the spirit the kids that visited you had. I was an arrogant drug using, womanizing ***** at that age. I try to make up for it by helping along as many young missionaries as I can financially.

God bless you for welcoming them into your home and praying with them, I know it means a lot to the young guys and gals out in the mission field just to have someone who is willing to talk with them and kneel in prayer with them.

I was born into the church and baptized at the age of eight (standard practice), I believe in God, Jesus Christ, and the power of prayer just as much now as I did then. I've just taken a more pragmatic view of it all, some people would call me a phony Mormon, but it's in my blood, it's part of my history and it's part of my daily life.

Do I believe everything about the church? Absolutely not. Do I consider myself a Mormon? Yep, I'm a priesthood holder and I'm proud of our religion.

If you're ever in Utah, I'll give you the grand tour.
 

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cool thread.....
 

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I'm thinking that I must have done all of this in a previous life, because my life is pretty Heavenly today.

Buddha said that "Life is 'dukkha'", which many translate to mean "Life is suffering".

In reality, the term means that life contains suffering, and it's likened to a wheel with a flat spot. It's smooth for a while, then there's the little jolt. Some have more flat spots than others.

My wheels are pretty smooth, though I do hit a tiny pot hole from time to time.
 

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I always like to learn about other religions, and have been to services/ceremonies of many different faiths. I think we're lucky, in that we live in a part of the country where the religious diversity is immense. I am always floored when someone posts and says they've never met a Jew, for example. I am always fascinated by other cultures. If someone of a different faith offers to pray for me, I'm thrilled. It certainly isn't going to HURT anything, and the fact that someone cares enough to do so is a nice bonus.

I admire those of you who came to religion later in life. I think it's easier for those of us born and raised in a religion to take it for granted sometimes.
 

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A few years ago, there were LDS's who came thru the neighborhood passing out videos and packs of microwave popcorn. They weren't ***** at all. They just rang the doorbell and handed me this bag with a video and popcorn in it and said "we hope you find the time to watch this some night" and went on their way. There was a note with instructions in it for contacting the church if you wanted a visit after watching the video, or anything else. Every neighbor seemed to be as impressed with that little "gift" as I was. What a cool way to share your religion and not be pushy at all! :)
 

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Mrs. VR;11468307 said:
I always like to learn about other religions, and have been to services/ceremonies of many different faiths.
Come down here and I will take you to Spanish Mass. You will stick out even more than I did :rofl:
 

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Come down here and I will take you to Spanish Mass. You will stick out even more than I did :rofl:
I have been to some latin masses. And the church next door has services in Spanish, among other languages. :supergrin:
 

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Mrs. VR;11468370 said:
I have been to some latin masses. And the church next door has services in Spanish, among other languages. :supergrin:
Next door, behind, on top of... same difference. :supergrin:


My dad's an ordained elder in the Church of the Nazarene and I, too, hold ministerial privileges with the Church. I agree that having been born into it and growing up with that as your only frame of reference makes religion as much a part of who you are as something you believe. Like TD, I can't say that I agree 100% with what my church teaches but it is nonetheless the foundation of my faith.

Learning about other religious belief systems is something I enjoy as a philosophy buff. My dad's brother joined the LDS church in order to get married. He was lucky enough to be married in the temple in SLC; they've since moved back to KY and have five great kids.

So there ya go... I'm a good little preacher's daughter (who also happens to be a minister). That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
 

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Good thread. I grew up Pentecostal Holiness, my grandad was actually the Bishop of the whole shebang for 20+ years. Learned a lot of interesting things in that time as he was very interested in other religions and cultures and wrote a handful of books.

I got pretty interested in learning about LDS after I moved out to W. CO, not many LDS where I grew up and lots of misinformation and crazy crap talked about the religion. I have also read the BoM and part of Pearl of Great Price and have a nice collection of very old Mormon scripture, I think my copies of BoM and Pearl are about 100 years old.

Learned quite a bit about the church and the history of the Mormons, migration from Nauvoo to Utah, persecution etc. Overall I find the scriptures to be no more strange than what I was taught growing up in a fundamental christian denomination.

Most of the LDS members I know and have met are really nice people, hard workers and of better character than your average Joe. They also seem to have a much more tolerant view of outsiders than the people I grew up around.

Salt Lake City is also one of my favorite cities in this region to visit; has all the big city stuff, but people are much more friendly and polite than Denver for example (just don't ask a "greeter" where the nearest bar is, they're useless on that):supergrin:. We are right in the middle so we'd rather go to SLC than Denver any time. Some very cool architecture and history there too.

I know devout Mormons and "Jack Mormons", like all religions, some are a-holes but most I've met have been good folks.
 

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Mrs. VR;11468370 said:
I have been to some latin masses. And the church next door has services in Spanish, among other languages. :supergrin:
I was the only person there who wasn't a Mexican, other than the priest. I was amazed at how welcome they made me feel. Now they have gotten their own church built (I went to mass in a converted bar---confessional was held in the restrooms!) and it is incredible as far as buildings go. I haven't been to mass there but while somebody else taught class I went thru their records one night. I checked the whole place out. The alter was breathtaking. I'm not sure if it was a Mexican thing or the norm but the alter was covered in flowers and memorials. It reminded me of the flowers and things left at Buckinham Palace after Princess Di died. It is one of the most moving things I have ever laid my eyes on. :crying:
 

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my roommate in college was mormon. It was so much fun giving him **** and ****ing with him. He was a jack mormon and was into the porn i had and what not. I just let him have it at the end of the year because i could get more and he thought it was like gold.
 
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