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Lane Kiffin leaving Tennessee VOLS for USC Trojans

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  1. Weiser 878

    Weiser 878 R O C K E R

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4820927

    At this rate, Lane Kiffin is an 8-5 season at USC away from a $50 million contract to coach Peyton Manning and the Colts.

    Seriously, why not? Why wouldn't he just keep rising up the coaching ranks on the basis of nothing much at all? If a 31-year-old with no head-coaching experience can get the Oakland Raiders job, and a guy who got fired from that job after losing 15 of 20 games can get the Tennessee job, and a guy who went 7-6 in a reckless first season in Knoxville can get the USC job … is there any rung of the sport to which Kiffin cannot climb?

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    Lane Kiffin coached the Raiders to a 5-15 record in his short tenure in Oakland.
    I mean, what if he actually does something impressive as a coach? Win a conference title and they might just fast-track him into the Hall of Fame.

    Paris Hilton has paid more dues than Lane Kiffin.

    Kiffin comes across as a guy who was born on third base and acts as if he hit a triple -- but given the way people have thrown good jobs and big money at him, it's hard to blame him for thinking he's the next Knute Rockne.

    USC is the latest enabler. Perhaps feeling the flutter of desperation after reportedly being stiff-armed by Mike Riley, Jack Del Rio, Jeff Fisher and Steve Sarkisian, the school had to go to someone it knew would say yes -- especially if that someone has ties to the Pete Carroll glory days.

    Kiffin is that guy. His jilting of Tennessee and all the players he and his Orange Pride hostesses sweet-talked into becoming Volunteers is distasteful. The school gave him a big break, and he broke athletic director Mike Hamilton's ankles sprinting out of town in just over a year. Once again, loyalty is for suckers in the realm of college coaching.

    That said, Kiffin is taking a better job.

    Who wouldn't prefer coaching the flagship school in the Pacific-10 to coaching what is no better than the fourth- or fifth-best program in the murderous SEC? Who wouldn't prefer the recruiting backyard of Southern California to East Tennessee? Who wouldn't prefer the beach to the boonies?

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    Lane Kiffin coached the Vols to a 7-6 record in his one season at Tennessee.
    But just because Kiffin might want the USC job doesn't mean USC is beholden to give it to him. What's to love about Lane?

    His career head-coaching record is 12-21.

    He's already 0-1 against USC's biggest rival, UCLA.

    His signature win was a loss -- a two-point defeat at eventual national champion Alabama. Other than that, the best thing the Volunteers did in 2009 was thumping the worst Georgia team in a decade.

    His team was de-pantsed in the Chick-fil-A Bowl by Virginia Tech, and de-pantsed in Oxford by an underachieving Mississippi.

    And that's just the on-field stuff. Off the field is where he's really raised doubts, and raised the ire of SEC commissioner Mike Slive. Kiffin has specialized in stupidity.

    He knows the periodic table of the elements better than the NCAA rule manual -- that much became obvious after erroneously accusing Florida's Urban Meyer of cheating, and the string of secondary violations the Volunteers committed on his watch. Blithely commenting that he takes NCAA enforcement scrutiny of his program as "a compliment" only reinforced the notion that the guy doesn't get it when it comes to compliance.

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    Lane Kiffin was a member of Pete Carroll's USC staff from 2001-06.
    Which, when it comes to USC, would seemingly be a concern. The school has a date next month with the NCAA Committee on Infractions to answer allegations of violations in both the football and men's basketball programs. Think the committee will be impressed by USC's new commitment to piety by trotting out Lane Kiffin?

    So there is a lot to question about this hire, and about the meteoric rise of mediocre Lane Kiffin. But who knows? Maybe this will be where he actually earns his station.

    Kiffin is quickly assembling another all-star coaching staff, which was his signature achievement at Tennessee. He's bringing dad Monte as his defensive coordinator and Ed Orgeron as his recruiting coordinator, plus adding former USC offensive coordinator Norm Chow to the ensemble.

    And Kiffin knows the turf. He was recruiting coordinator there before, when the Trojans were signing a constellation of stars on an annual basis. He should be able to sign plenty of A-list talent.

    Plus, it's USC. Even if the program gets slapped by the NCAA -- which might have factored into Carroll's leaving, and rejections from other candidates -- it will not stay down for long.

    Actually, it won't stay down for long if Lane Kiffin is the right guy. Maybe this time he'll stay in one place long enough to determine whether he can actually coach.
     
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    Atleast Orgeron is finally out of the SEC. The man is a recruiting monster!
     

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    I agree with the article about Kiffin. To me, he is just a disaster waiting to happen. He seems to be the kind of guy who would get a school into major trouble if he ever hangs around for a few years in one place.

    He reminds me of a guy I personally knew in banking. He was known as a "mover and shaker" because of his ability to get creative on commercial loans. He would get promoted, move to another bank, etc., etc. but always just a step ahead of the bad loans he was leaving in his wake. Banks were glad to get him, he would stay a year, then leave for another bank. Then the loans he had made at the previous bank would turn out bad but of course, by that time he had already left. Nobody ever seemed to catch on until after the fact.
     
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    Tommy Tuberville suddenly wonders why he took the Texas Tech job.:faint:
     
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    Nothing to do with the 3rd Saturday in October, I just thought he was an @$$hole. He just gave me that vibe.

    No wonder he's such a cocky *****, he keeps getting handed everything on a silver platter without doing anything to earn it.

    Should be a lot easier for him to win in the PAC10 than the SEC
     
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    If all this is so...
    Major glad he left TN.
    :tongueout::tongueout:
     
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    Too bad Lane's parents were not fans of Trojans.
     
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    Weiser 878 R O C K E R

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    Which part, exactly?

    It all is so.

    You can gnerally trust ESPN when it comes to sports news.
     
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    Weiser 878 R O C K E R

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    Wow, the news outlets are being really harsh.

    This from FOXnews front page

    Updated Jan 13, 2010 4:28 AM ET
    Though some in Hollywood would likely insist “Gladiator”, “Young Einstein” or “A Beautiful Mind” work just fine, perhaps the most appropriate title for the Lane Kiffin-to-USC saga is one that serves as a tribute to Pauly Shore’s fine film career, as well: “The Weasel.”
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    In Los Angeles, of course, Kiffin’s twisted, shotgun Odyssey from Knoxville to Southern California will be labeled part romance, part caper film, part action thriller. Toss in his father Monte and longtime former USC assistants Ed Orgeron, and possibly Norm Chow, and you can even make it a buddy film. Think “Wild Hogs” without any comedy whatsoever and a tutorial on the Tampa 2 defense. Incorporate Kiffin’s smoking hot wife Layla (played by herself, naturally), and you have a fine leading lady, too. It’s a script any Hollywood studio exec worth his salt would die for.

    In the Rocky Top hills of Tennessee, though, it’s a horror flick; a slasher film. A man (perhaps “boy” would be the better word choice) comes riding into town, muddies a long-standing tradition with brash un-Fulmer-like bravado, fields a team of criminals, and then deserts the premises for greener pastures when a better opportunity presents itself.

    If Pete Carroll left USC in a state of uncertainty, Lane Kiffin is leaving Tennessee in a state of rubble and shrapnel. And if Carroll’s a “worm” for leaving the Trojans high and dry, Lane Kiffin’s a snake of the highest order. As of Tuesday night, that snake was on a plane to La La Land.

    Whether he’s a snake, weasel, or just your garden variety spoiled brat, it’s really of no great circumstance. What matters is that Lane Kiffin is done with Tennessee after just one year and on to bigger and better things. In his wake, he leaves a program that was likely better off having never known him at all.


    Naturally, Kiffin’s Tuesday night Tennessee “farewell” press conference started thirty minutes late and produced little more than a 60-second soundbyte. He didn’t thank a school administrator, acknowledge any of his players and/or coaching staff by name, and stood nervously — like a weasel — with crossed arms, an all too casual short-sleeved polo shirt for the given circumstances, and a nervous sway. He alluded to his 14 months in Knoxville as if he’d been serving time in some far off distant land.

    This was not the same Lane Kiffin who boldly took swipes at Urban Meyer and exhibited great arrogance and bravado in media interviews throughout the season. This was a 34-year-old man (er, boy) who hasn’t won a thing as a head coach sneaking out the back door and creeping up the football coaching ladder, yet again.

    According to the Knoxville News Sentinel, “Dozens of students and fans marched into the Neyland-Thompson Sports Complex on Tuesday night chanting obscenities at Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin, who was informing his players about his departure to Southern California. ... The crowd eventually became rowdy and were asked to disperse without incident.”

    Various blogs Tuesday night showed some of the creative signs and art work that UT students exhibited on campus Tuesday night. One of them read, “Go home traitor! It’s time!” Others weren’t quite as G-Rated. One student reportedly brought a mattress to the center of campus and lit it on fire. Thanks for the memories, Lane.

    One and done. That was the Lane Kiffin Era in Tennessee. Without a notable win on his pro or college head-coaching resume, Kiffin’s now leaping from one national powerhouse to another.

    It’s one hell of a gifted lilly pad, too. One that ignores three players being arrested in November on attempting armed robbery charges, while wearing Tennessee football garb. One that turns a blind eye to dragging Urban Meyer, one of the classier gentlemen in all of college football, through the mud without Meyer ever being there to defend himself. One that took countless pot shots at SEC officials throughout the year. One that responded to losing to UCLA at home by noting afterwards, “We should have won by multiple touchdowns.”

    Class all the way.

    Left to pick up the pieces in Knoxville is interim coach Kippy Brown. Reassuring recruits and current players will be among Brown and the rest of the remaining UT coaching staff’s top priorities in the coming days. If rival SEC coaches haven’t gotten in touch with Tennessee’s top verbal commitments yet, they will by Wednesday morning.

    To no one’s surprise, word leaked that assistant coach Ed Orgeron is already on campus at USC, getting on the phones with some of those very same recruits, as well.
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    Lane Kiffin's move to USC is ... Appalling, how can he preach loyalty?Cowardly, he couldn't back up trash talkSmart, USC has been better than the VolsA sign of how crazy college football is

    Back in October 2007, the media jumped to call Al Davis everything from “crazy” to “senile” when the Raiders owner fired Kiffin under the most bizarre circumstances imaginable. With an overhead projector exhibiting a hand written letter he had penned to Kiffin, Davis referred to his then 32-year-old coach as a “flat-out liar" and said he was guilty of "bringing disgrace to the organization."

    On June 8, 2009, the Raiders organization issued a statement about Lane Kiffin’s hiring at Tennessee. The statement read: "Lane Kiffin is a flat-out liar. He lied to the team, he lied to the fans, and he lied to the media. He will try to destroy that university like he tried to destroy the Raiders."

    At the time it was released, the media viewed it as nothing more than sour grapes. In hindsight, Davis was right on the money. Once a weasel, always a weasel.

    Now, the rat will have his cheese (and some wine) in Southern California.

    After he fired Kiffin in ’07, Davis famously noted, “It hurts because I picked the guy. I picked the wrong guy."

    The University of Tennessee now knows just how Davis felt.

    And if history tells us anything, so — eventually — will USC.
     
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    The Big Orange Army took to the streets of Knoxville near Johnny Majors Blvd. (a coach with real class) and demanded Lane Kiffin.*

    Reportedly, mattresses and boxes were set on fire and had to be put out as the fans waited for Kiffin to emerge from the building where he held his cowardice conference.*

    Later on, they burned Kiffin in effegy and painted obscene gestures about him and his wife on the Rock on campus near the Hill.*

    Note to Lane:* Earthquakes in Southern California*will feel like manna from Heaven compared to what the Big Orange hoped to give you Tuesday night.

    He appeared as if he*feared*for his life*for the press conference he held to let reporters know in his defiant, smug tone that he was "leaving the program better than he found it" 14 months ago.* With arms folded, he left quickly without questions taken and he turned his back on*his players for the second time in one day.*

    As he emerged, they chased him down the street and several talked about going to his house.* Good thing his introductory press conference is at USC so early tomorrow.

    Yeah, if I were you Lane, I would catch the red eye out to the West Coast and never look back.* No one in the SEC likes you and you need to pray the Trojans never have to face the SEC post season as well.* We will make sure to bring our "whoopin sticks" to face the "boys" at USC.*

    Funny that you left under the cover of darkness, but then maybe not so much ironic as it might seem.* Your "boys" need to hurry and get out of K-Town as well because they are as much the enemy now as you are.* Al Davis, as crazy as he may be, was exactly right when he summed you up in words: "Lane Kiffin is a professional liar."
     
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    LOL WUT?????????????


    Also: How are coaches just able to break a contract and go to another school? You can't do that stuff in the NFL.
     
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    As a Vol fan I am glad he left, was never a fan anyway....hopefully they pick up a decent coach.
     
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    He'll fail there, too.....

    I don't like Tenn, never have, but at least Fulmer was a class act. Kiffin is a tool.
     
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    Bingo! I love how ESPN replayed his speech upon accepting the TN job last night, made him look like a major tool for leaving after 1 year...way to beat Florida, Kiffin! Why is this guy so sought after? He has yet to really win as a head coach. I know he is supposedly a great recruiter, but come on. I think alot of it has to do with the fact that Monty Kiffin (his dad) is a very good defensive coordinator.
     
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    USC just did us a huge favor in the long run. TN did that loser a favor by hiring him in the first place. GO VOLS...
     
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    My alma mater may be losing its football coach. I sure wouldn't mind if Fulmer came our way.
     
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    As a UK fan I have found the whole episode interesting. I was no Bill Battle, Johnny Majors or Fulmer fan, but the university got rid of them in very less than classy ways. Karma has bit them in the rear end.

    Kiffin the punk, as posted earlier is a disaster waiting to happen, in a way him leaving probably saved UT from major future NCAA violations and possibly the death penalty at some point.
     
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    The outrage for most vol fans is so rabid that you can barely get a vol message board to load.

    I can't stand the thought of Fulmer going back.
    Can't stand the idea that Cutcliffe would be considered.
    Chavis? ... Please.

    IMO, UT isn't going to be able to get "the" coach they need because of the timing of this fiasco. Kippy Brown could wind up getting shafted at the end of the day, too, and then all the screams of racism are going to start coming out.

    UT haters are loving this, no doubt... Lane Kiffin has single-handedly set the program back a solid 5 years now. Sucks to be a vol fan right now.

    Obviously, Kiffin always wanted to get back to USC and had that job come open 2 or 3 yrs from now (instead of "yesterday"), he would have bolted for it then. This was just a perfect storm .... firing of Mora, USC on the verge of about 5 yrs worth of probation, Carroll bolting for Seattle, and a dream job for Kiffin (and Coach Yaw Yaw) opens right up.

    Couldn't have been scripted any better for Kiffin, or any worse for Tennessee.

    Tennessee is absolutely hosed. Mike Hamilton is just as likely to let Kippy Brown have it for the 2010 season and then go after your Gary Patterson or Chris Peterson (who won't leave Boise St, but still..). ... seems awfully hard to have JUST brought in Kippy Brown only to get rid of him for the 2011 campaign.

    Anyway... for the children, UTK does not need to go back to Fulmer.