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Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by IOmm, Oct 25, 2020.
I’ve always wondered about a hot 357 SIG. I have never fired that round in any make of gun.
My worst, by far, was my G27. I hated that thing, and did not keep it very long. 2nd worst were the two G29's that I previously owned. 3rd worst was my G23. My G29's were reasonably manageable, but never pleasant to shoot. My G23 was quite manageable, with regular practice, but not unpleasant to shoot. The muzzles on all 3 of those tended to jump all over the place.
My previous G32 and G33 were not bad at all, even though they had serious recoil. Fairly straight back, instead of the muzzle jumping around. Pretty sharp recoil impulse, but quite controllable.
My current G30S and G36 are a dream to shoot. Just a solid thump (not sharp), straight back. I too don't understand people complaining about G36's, based on how they felt to me. They must not work with their hands very much (I do), doing things that require much strength (that isn't an insult, but just an observation).
My current G20 is a dream to shoot. With full power Underwood, it is more sharp than a thump, but quite controllable and not unpleasant. Quite a contrast to my G29's, which I didn't much like, and will never buy again.
It's not quite as bad as .40 S&W when I run AW Sig barrels in my G35's but I'm comparing .40 165 gr. at 1060 fps/180 gr. at 990 fps against Sig 125 gr. at 1350 fps. Both these .40's thump a tic harder than the Sig. Underwood has some Sig 125 gr. at 1475 fps, but it still shoots softer than my G41 with WWB plinkers. .357 Sig is not the recoil monster some say it is but it can be hard on the ears without protection, but hell, .40 S&W is too.
Snappy is a term used by people who are recoil sensitive, and have most likely have never shot a 41 or 44 magnum revolver, to describe a very modest amount of recoil that falls far below the threshold of pain. Glocks have a wide grip that distributes recoil forces over a larger area of the hand and the polymer frame absorbs a certain amount of recoil.
and anyone who has fired Magnum revolvers knows how to manage the recoil where people who have only shot 9mm's have not have learned how to do. I find that my all steel Government model 1911 seems to recoil more than the lighter weight G21 though neither one causes any pain or discomfort whatsoever.
Recoil either hurts or it isn't worth mentioning. Shooting an airweight J frame 357 magnum hurts like a MoFo but shooting the same ammo out of an N Frame 357 isn't like shooting a real magnum that begins with the number four.
Which causes the highest muzzle flip? And please don't pretend you don't know what that is.
The 29 is nothing compared to my big bore snub shooting 335 grain slugs over 1200 fps.
Glock 29's have no muzzle rise to speak of comparably.
Yea, you could fan my Redhawk 7".44. You ain't fanning my 4" Tracker with the same ammo.
I think my gov. 1911 (all steel) has a little more recoil than my 41's but I think the RS in it is on the weak side. It bottoms a bit more than I like and the brass goes a good ways so it could be stiffened up some to shoot a little softer. I don't know if it'll ever be like the 41 without doing some other changes. In stock form?? I don't see it happening.
I have shot a G29. It is snappy.
I suspect however that a G33 might be more so.
If however you want the king of Snap it would be a G29 shooting 9x25 Dillon.
I have a 357 Sig Barrel for my Glock 23 which is the same size as the Glock 19 and the Glock 32 which is chambered for 357 Sig.
Shooting the same gun with both barrels, the recoil impulse is not any stronger with one caliber or the other but it's a little different, and then there is more muzzle blast, even with double ear protection, with the 357 Sig and the increased noise intimidates some people and makes them think the gun is recoiling more than it is.
I also have a KKM 40-to-9 conversion barrel for the gun and there isn't much difference between 40 S&W and 9mm plus+P.
FWIW, I find the recoil from my hot 9x25s to be quite tame vs a hot 200 grainer in 10mm ammo.
Huh. I am a little surprised. I am glad to hear that. Thank you for sharing.
I would like to try 9x25mm someday.
The G27, was not fun to shoot and I was quick to trade it away! I did have a G36 for many years but I did not find it snappy at all! Go figure!
The 9x25 has been fun to get to know. I'm loading a 90 gr JHP to 2100 fps. It is probably the light bullet mass that makes the difference in felt recoil.
Snappiest recoil? A G33 loaded with Underwood!
I don't see the need for a 10 mm in a small gun. If 10mm power is really needed then the G20 should be used otherwise the G33 or G27 will be adequate.
I do...I want a 10mm single stack pocket rocket!!
Hmm to me the 32 is not bad at all.
I enjoy shooting my gen3 G27. To me the 36 is the worst.
So do all the orthopedic surgeons I know. Great for wrist business.