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Kimber External Extractor..

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by silversport, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. silversport

    silversport

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    would you buy a used Kimber 1911 with an external extractor???...

    used Kimber 1911 with external extractor...current owner says he has had absolutely no issues with his external extractor on this pistol...I have read all the horror stories on Kimber's EE but have also read that many with them that haven't had any issues yet...won't...

    Some report that IF they did have issues, a trip back to Kimber might yield them a new slide (an any other parts to make it right) but this is a gamble too as Kimber might only do this out of good will since the standard warranty does not extend to the subsequent owner's...

    How do you feel about refinished pistols as well...?

    There are two warning flags for me...EE and refinish unless I know the seller, I always wonder "What is the refinish potentially hiding." and the aforementioned EE possible issues...

    ...price is decent on the alloy'd frame one I saw but...just curious on what you guys thought or had experience with...I have a Kimber Custom II that has had no issues and I don't fall in the Kimber hater camp...(and the fact that I currently believe there are two warning flags SHOULD guide my thoughts but... ;) )

    Bill
     
  2. Rinspeed

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    There are so many used Kimbers for sale why bother with one that has an EE. How many rounds does he have through it.
     

  3. faawrenchbndr

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    I had a Kimber with an external extractor. I upgraded the extractor spring
    to a Wolf extra power one,....never had a single issue.

    Kimber will replace the slide free of charge with a non-EE if requested
     
  4. silversport

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    thanks for the feedback guys...certainly both sides have merit...
    Bill
     
  5. Rinspeed

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    I'm not sure that is the case on a Kimber purchased used.
     
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    To echo Rinspeed's comments, unless it is a ridiculously low price, (another warning flag), or a super collectable piece, (which would be moot after a refinish), why buy this one ? There are zillions of used Kimbers out there from which to choose....

    As far as replacing the slide, i probably wouldn't mention I wasn't the first owner. If they let a non functional pistol out, then they need to fix it regardless....
     
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  7. faawrenchbndr

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    Dang good point,.........never thought of that. :wow:
    Good catch.
     
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    Since its not your first time around the 1911 block and you've had good expirence with Kimber, I'd say go for it and deal with issues IF they surface.

    As far as the refinish...what could they be hiding? If nothing else you could always send it off to be properly refinished however you want.
     
  9. samuse

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    I just wanna ask a question.

    Has any gun in the history of modern firearms ever had a reputation for being less reliable than a Kimber with an external extractor?

    Seriously.
     
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    How do you define modern?
     
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    I had a Kimber TLE II that I bought used with an EE. At the time I was not aware of the issues being reported with EEs. I was fortunate not to encounter any issues with it myself. I had several thousand rounds through it when I got rid of it to fund another project. It's the only gun I've ever put back on the market that I regret having let go... I have sort of missed some others but I REALLY wish I still had that pistol.
     
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  12. silversport

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    thanks guys...there are too many red flags for me...you brought up the obvious that there is a large pool of Kimbers to choose from...why get this one...the price is not THAT good (even the price I was thinking of offering)...it was local but I cannot count on Kimber to "good will" me a new slide (...and why should they?) should this one prove problematic...lastly...it was an alloy frame and the refinish might be hiding something so why chance it...

    Thanks again, I appreciate the feedback from everyone...

    Bill
     
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    Not sure really.

    I do think that Kimber took the most critical part (that's also the weakest link) of a 1911 and made it worse than it already was.
     
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    I probably would not. Kimber's EE was never perfected.

    I'm a big Kimber fan, but I'd look for one with an IE.
     
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    My son bought a used Kimber with the external extractor-broke after about 25 rounds- and Kimber told him they wouldn't replace the slide unless he was the original owner, but send him a replacement extractor-he sold it ofter he got it fixed.
     
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    I did used and have had no problem with it after 2000 rounds.
     
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    Over 2K though mine, no problems. That's the internet for ya.
     
  18. silversport

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    ...not just the internet...Kimber tried modifying their design at least three times and then gave up on it as problematic...even replacing the slide (and other parts) on so many because of problems...that's from Kimber...not the internet...

    ...I work with a buddy who carries the Kimber Eclipse Custom II with the EE and he has had zero issues with at least a couple thousand rounds so far...so that was not a deal killer for me...I was more concerned with what a pistol refinish (and Guncote at that) on an alloy'd receiver might be hiding...maybe nothing...maybe something...I have refinished pistols just for asthetics myself so that too was not a deal killer...

    ...anyway...the BIGGEST deal killer was it got sold before I made an offer...:animlol:

    Bill
     
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