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Again, browning designed these cartridges for his automatic pistols. He did not design them for dual use in revolvers. Remember, this was cutting edge technology. I’m sure there were fudds who didn’t trust the newfangled auto pistols, and thought a revolver chambered for the “hot new load” would be the bees knees.
I have read that Browning preferred the semi-rim. Perhaps there was uncertainty that cartridges could be made uniformly enough to headspace on the case mouth, by the millions. Also, when you look at really old cartridges in these calibers, the bullet is pretty heavily crimped into the case.
In any case, the semi-rim does not cause problems in a properly designed magazine, unless the cartridge is so short that it permits it.
There has to be some interesting reason why the .380 and .45ACP didn't go that route :)
 

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Again, browning designed these cartridges for his automatic pistols. He did not design them for dual use in revolvers. Remember, this was cutting edge technology. I’m sure there were fudds who didn’t trust the newfangled auto pistols, and thought a revolver chambered for the “hot new load” would be the bees knees.
I have read that Browning preferred the semi-rim. Perhaps there was uncertainty that cartridges could be made uniformly enough to headspace on the case mouth, by the millions. Also, when you look at really old cartridges in these calibers, the bullet is pretty heavily crimped into the case.
In any case, the semi-rim does not cause problems in a properly designed magazine, unless the cartridge is so short that it permits it.
"In any case, the semi-rim does not cause problems in a properly designed magazine, unless the cartridge is so short that it permits it"

You're definitely right about that, and you may even be right about Browning's preference for semi-rimmed cartridges. And since John Browning gisn't around to ask, we'll never know. But as far as feeding out of a small magazine, the semi-rimmed 25 auto definitely feeds better than the rimmed 22 LR.

I'd like to see someone make a 25 auto magnum with a 22 magnum length case which could be used in small revolvers and being centerfire wouldn't require as heavy of a hammer spring and could have a lighter DA trigger and being centerfire would be reloadable.
 

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Any KelTec P32 owners here? How's the reliability?
This seems to be a good compromise between weight and caliber (no caliber wars, please)
You can't beat the weight at 9.6 oz loaded, with 7+1 rounds available.
My old P32 worked very well, then I sold it for a .380.
 
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There has to be some interesting reason why the .380 and .45ACP didn't go that route :)
By the time the 380 rolled around in 1908. Browning may have decided that a semi rim was no longer necessary and as far as the 45 ACP, there were certain requirements stipulated by the US board of ordnance. For example, Browning originally designed the cartridge around a 200 grain bullet but US military specification requirements changed that to 230 grains.
 

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I got my ISP problems solved.

Here's that link on the flyerwire I promised. It solves the problem of using HP in the P32. I've shot a P32 and its a fun gun to shoot, but I greatly prefer the P3AT for a pocket pistol. The P3AT is a true pocket pistol.

IMO few other brand makers make a true pocket pistol. To me the P3AT recoil is negligible. I know a lot of people complain about the P3AT recoil, but compared to my steel Walther PP, the P3AT is a pleasure to shoot.

I have literally thousands of rounds though my first generation P3AT (I quit counting at 3,000 rounds) and at least a thousand or more rounds through my later generation P3AT.

I do admit the first generation one, had numerous problems which I solved about 15 years ago using internet guidance. The only problem I've ever experienced with the later generation one , is a tiny burr on the extractor which was hanging it up. A light stroke of a file fixed that during the first 50 rounds.

Both pistols are 100% reliable, and I've killed lots of small moving four legged varmints with both pistols.

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/flyerwire.htm
 

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Mine has been 100% reliable and I only shoot/carry it will ball ammo. My only complaint is that I wish they would update the P32/P3AT with metal mag catches like they did with the PF9. I really don't like having to push in the mag release when inserting the magazine so I don't wear out the catch.
 

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I have owned my P32 since March of 2000. One field strip and 250-300 rounds through it.

I carried it almost exclusively as a Rx drug courier from 2000 to 2006 as many rest homes and hospitals were weapon verboten.

As I was a contractor, the company never said I couldn't carry so being I moved tens of thousands of dollars of drugs nearly every day, it lived in my jeans pocket and was backed up with my SW 642 or more often my Glock 30.

It was the gun I had on me the night at the lab warehouse and heard what sounded like feet running at me through gravel towards the dock entrance. I thought someone was getting a running start so as to leap the 3-4 foot dock.

I drew and would have fired the moment someone landed on that dock. No one "innocent" would be charging me at 10:30 at night. Turned out to be a false alarm, but my heart was going like a trip hammer, my backdrop was clear, and my final thought was.

I WISH I HAD A BIGGER GUN!

The little blaster still felt MIGHTY GOOD as that tiny little white sight rose to cover that dock!

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My old P32 worked very well, then I sold it for a .380.
 

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I have two, one purchased and one given to me by my agency. I have had the barrels hard chromed. I carry European Geco long FMJ for penetration and no rim lock worry. They are dandy little guns.
I have carried 32s since Seecamp started making theirs. Since I got a S&W Bodyguard in 380, I rarely carry the P32 anymore. I have never had a rimlock occur. I used whatever ball I could get and WW Silvertips for carry (since the Seecamp was specifically made for it).
What is is about the Geco ammo that is different?
 
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Any KelTec P32 owners here? How's the reliability?
This seems to be a good compromise between weight and caliber (no caliber wars, please)
You can't beat the weight at 9.6 oz loaded, with 7+1 rounds available.
I have one. It's been reliable. I prefer my .380acp Beretta Pico.

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I Worked At KELTEC For 20 years There Guns Work Great If You Keep them CLEAN AND LUBED I AM RETIRED OFFER NO INFORMATION ON THERE PRODUCTS
 
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