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Kayaks.... Which one?

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by CanyonMan, Apr 6, 2003.

  1. CanyonMan

    CanyonMan In The Saddle

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    Any of you guys out there do any kayaking?
    I mainly want one to take trips on the Red River border between Oklahoma, and Texas, and for slow moving river travel.. I want one that is stable, and yet does not have a lot of drag..

    any and all help here greatly appreciated.
    I am getting Kayak fever... Just don't know which one to get.
    The one i have been looking at is a kayak made by "Perception,"... called the "acadia 12.5"

    Again, any help really appreciated.

    Thanks!

    CanyonMan
     
  2. Hihopoly

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    Open or closed? I've used closed white water and closed sea kayaks, so I'll probably try an open (sit on top) next. Open kayaks are getting nicer, plus I want to bring the dog with me on camping trips. Fishing is easier too. I think they don't sink either if capsized in a wave (like closed ones can).
     

  3. Richard Ogle

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    Hello! We had a Keowee 2, which I think might be too big if it is just you. The Acadia is great, but no matter what you buy try one out before hand. Tracking is much more important than you realize, a bad handling canoe/kayak will flat wear you out and ruin a good trip. My advise is paddle them before you buy. I like kayaks, wife likes canoes so naturally we use our canoe much more. Good luck.Have fun.
    RO
     
  4. flyboy5432H

    flyboy5432H Pull.Mark.Bird.

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    other companies to check out:

    Old Town Canoe:www.otccanoe.com

    Cobra Kayaks: www.cobrakayaks.com

    Ocean Kayak: www.oceankayak.com

    Islander Kayaks: www.islanderkayaks.com

    Dagger: www.dagger.com

    Heritage: www.heritagekayaks.com

    Dimension kayaks: www.dimensionkayak.com

    and i'm sure i still missed a few.

    first you have to determine what type of activity you want to do. Sit-insides *non-playboat or river runner* are typically faster. but with this increase in speed you lose stability. also i'd definitely recommend training in proper roll techniques if going the sit inside route. they are nice boats for travelling, camping, or touring. the winter they are nice and dry, plus keep you warm. but in the summer it can become a greenhouse.

    on the other hand are your sit-on-tops. these have made a true revolution in the past few years by including true touring models equipped with inner hull storage and rudder systems. there is alot less worry for beginners as if you roll over you simply fall off, and climb back on. in the winter they do get cold and require other forms of clothing, but in the summer they are nice and cool.

    best advice is to talk to someone near you that deals in kayaks and try to get a test paddle. some boats just have quirks that some people don't like and the only way to find out is to try it. if you have any other questions or about specific models feel free to e-mail me at Michael_Uleski@hotmail.com.
     
  5. CanyonMan

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    Well, thanks thus far guys, as i said above, i just want a kayak that will track well, and is stable, for for classs 1 & 2 type river and lake. I want the closed style, as i said, the "Acadia," or the 'America' or the Carolina, by Perception, are the three i am mainly interested in, and hoped perhaps someone out there has/had one of these, and could give me their experience with it. etc. (although, as i said, open to all other suggestions).

    I have absolutely no way to test one out, or take any sort of lessons, so i will have to do my home work and buy whatever.

    Again, the main use is for river travel on the red river, and the colorado river, and brazos river in west Texas here by the ranch. Will also use it on lakes within 50 yards of the shore, but mostly all river stuff. no rapids, just river journeys.


    CanyonMan
     
  6. dukeoftank

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    For a stable down river (flatwater) boat and an occasional lake fishing boat I would suggest building your own small rowboat.
    For a real small boat to sneak back up in the swamps etc.. there are several home made canoe/kayak designs that would serve you very well.

    Texas has a great group of home boat builders.
    check out www.duckworksmagazine.com

    feel free to email me if you want specific recomendations.
     
  8. anomad

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    Jim Michalak is my favorite boat designer. His website isn't that great, but order his book, best 17 bucks I ever spent. The book includes plans for 4-5 different boats.

    http://homepages.apci.net/~michalak/
     
  9. CanyonMan

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    anomad,

    Thanks for the info: and the sites.... I 'will' check them out, and the book as well... But man, i have confidence in the chicken coop, and the dog house, and the fence post i put up, and other various ranch things that are nessecary (sp), But, i ain't to sure i would have a good feeling floating around in a boat "I" would have put together! :)

    I will check it all out though.. Thanks again.

    CanyonMan
     
  10. anomad

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    Haha, that is good. If my fences can hold cattle your boat can hold water!

    Jim is from Illinois farm country and has many stories of people that have no boating experience who buy one of his plans and teach themselves to sail or paddle after building the boat themselves.

    Check it out, if there is a lumber yard in your neck of the prairie and UPS comes out to the farm then you can build a nice double paddle canoe/kayak thing for about 200 bucks.
     
  11. CanyonMan

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    anomad,

    I checked out the sites you gave me... They are very good. Actualy, it does not seem that difficult to build a wooden canoe style craft.

    Seriously, aside fom the things i mentioned above, rather in jest.
    i have built several log beds, from aspen, and other log and southwest style furniture that adorns our western style home. I believe i may just 'give this a shot,' (boat building).

    but.... in the mean time, i would still like info: on the above mentioned kayaks, till i can have the time to complete the study, and work, that would go into the project mentioned on the website on boat building.

    Thanks again for the information, i appreciate it!

    CanyonMan
     
  12. Edge

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    I've been considering a kayak for quite a while too. I would try to find a place that has them. I would also do a search on the internet. It seems like there were several different fishing sites devoted to kayaks. kayakfishing.com might be one (trying to recall from memory), but there are many out there. Some good articles in past Outdoor Life or Field & Stream or Fur Fish and Game (can't remember, but think maybe in all three within last year or so). I think Kayaks are kind of like shoes. It pays to try them on for size.
     
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    I just wanted to add my 2cents on kayaks. I have looked for a kayak for the last few months and have found the one I want, but can't afford it yet. It's a Hobie Mirage kayak that is a sit on top with a patented paddling mechanism that makes it possible to do very long trips with less energy than using a paddle.
    You can see details here:
    http://www.hobiecat.com/kayaking/index.html

    I read a review by this ozzie that did a very long rivertrek in Australia. I'm, enveious of his 2000Km kyak trip on the Murray River!
    Some great pictures on his page. Check it out!
    http://home.iprimus.com.au/sydwiner/stories/mirage.html

    I hope to save my $1300 and get one soon.

    Ron
     
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    <img src=http://home.earthlink.net/~tanzerpilot/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/2clckayaks.jpg>

    The one on the left is CLC 1t with a bunch of modifications including flush hatches with internal bungie cords holding it down (no straps).

    My wife's, is a CLC 17 LT with the race kit option and weighs about 40 lbs.

    From the http://www.clcboats.com/
     
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    <img src=http://home.earthlink.net/~tanzerpilot/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/2clckayaks.jpg>

    The one on the left is CLC 1t with a bunch of modifications including flush hatches with internal bungie cords holding it down (no straps).

    My wife's, is a CLC 17 LT with the race kit option and weighs about 40 lbs.

    From the http://www.clcboats.com/
     
  17. ice

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    We have two Swifty`s and one Acadia. The Acadia is mine. I have used it for three years now and love it. I`m 6' and weigh 220.
    The Acadia is like the Swiss Army knives of kayaking.

    1st choice=Acadia-best all around, reasonable speed and good capacity.

    2nd choice=Sierra-tracts well, roomy and very good for large people, easy entry and exit, 450 lb capacity. Will carry a lot of gear.

    ps: What ever you decide to buy, be sure and get the hatches for storage. You will be glad you did in the long run.

    rots a ruck
     
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    This is all very strange....(This post of mine dissapeared a long time ago, I placed it on here 'months' ago), and now it is back on again, and ahead of some of the most recent post????

    I appreciate all your response guys. I am looking into what to buy.

    Thanks much!

    Strange things are hapening here!


    CanyonMan
     
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    ive got a 17' perception eclipse which i love! its a touring kayak with a rudder. ive got the ultra light werner paddle too for extended ventures. im going out this weekend and i cant wait
     
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    Let me say this... Since i have first posted this, you guys have all been so very helpful, Thanks!
    The pictures you have sent are great! You guys have some very nice looking kayaks.

    Let me ask this question though, (with my limited knowledge).

    i really would like some 'good info: on the "swifty model, and there is another one , by the same company (perception), that is about the same size.

    I would "only use it on the Brazos river, (which is real calm), and other tributaries, (sp).

    But my question is this... will i have to "fight the thing," to keep it in a straight line, because of it's short length, or will it track ok for calm river journey's like this, and how 'tippy' is it going to be.

    i ask this, knowing there are far better kayaks (like the ones you have reccomended to me), but finances does not allow it right now to get a bigger yak.

    What do you guys think about this one for the use i have described. (calm rivers).

    all the details you can lay on me ... greatly appreciated!

    CanyonMan