Kahr CW 380

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  1. Ken43

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    I went to a gun store yesterday and bought a Kahr CW 380. Went to the range this morning and shot the required number of rounds for break in. I shot Remington 95 gr. FMJ, Winchester 95 gr. FMJ flat nose, and Hornady 90 gr.XTP. The gun functioned with out any malfunctions of any kind. People have said that the CW 380 will not shoot Winchester flat nose FMJ. I say BS. It shot very well and was more accurate than the Remington. I am very happy with the gun and the way it functions.
     
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    Good report. Thanks for sharing. the CW 380 is on my short list. I have a Kahr CM9 that has been 100% from the first round.
     
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  3. S.George

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    I conquer the report. Same story with my new Kahr CW380
     
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  4. S.George

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    Agree with you. I have an MK9, CM9 and CW380. Flawless operation on all. They do need to be broken in.
     
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    I too have not found break in a requirement, so far, knock on wood. I have owned a CW380, P380, CM9 and PM9 and about to pick up a CT380 today. Of the above I have owned, none needed a break in period, knock on wood.

    As far as the CW380 and P380, neither has been bullet profile sensitive. My practice load is uses a PD 95gr RNFP bullet which feed flawlessly. I have shot GD's, HSTs, Lehigh Xtreme Penetrators and Defenders, XTPs, even some WFN lead, never any feed issues.

    On the 380's, I stay away from the hot stuff (so called +P) from the likes of Underwood, etc., I found these hot loadings create too much slide velocity and the slide really batters the frame. It actually got so bad on my P380, I had to cut some of the mushroomed plastic away on the frame so the RSA would go back in when reassembling.
     
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    Congrats and enjoy your new 380
     
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    Update on the new CT380.

    Picked it up today. I shot 200 rounds of my PD 95 gr FMJ/FP, through it. This load clocks in at about 925fps from my P380, likely a little higher from the CT380. I also shot 50 rounds of Federal AE through it, pretty light stuff, looked like a plated 100gr RN bullet.

    The gun had 6 stoppages in the first 3 magazines (loaded with 7+1 each cycle) of my 95gr PD loads. After that, zero feed failures. I suppose that qualifies as my breakin period. :)

    I didn't shoot the CT380 quite as well as I shoot my P380, I suspect it will take a few more practice sessions before I get used to shooting with my pinky on the grip. All in all I am pretty pleased. I ordered some Talon grip panels and a couple of 8 round MagGuts magazine extensions (so I will have 9 total when fully loaded for carry) and 8 in reserve, my normal carry routine.

    All in all, a good first practice for the new CT380, but it did take a small breakin, my first for a Kahr mouse gun.
     
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    My CT380 ran flawlessly with AE, Remington, & Hornady - but wouldn't shoot WWB at all, not even a primer dent.

    Nicest shooting .380 pocket gun I've ever had (Keltec/Ruger/Remington/AMT)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for the report...
     
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    I am thinking about ditching my P32 Keltec for a CW380. How is the recoil?
     
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    The CW380 is compact and recoil is readily manageable. It is heavier and feels more substantial than the Keltec and clones. It is accurate and not overly sensitive to ammunition. Occasionally, the slide will fail to lock back and this is magazine dependent.
    The biggest downside to the CW380 is the recoil spring. The correct way to chamber a round is to lock the slide back, insert the magazine, and release the slide. If you are at all arthritic, racking this little devil is difficult. Women often don't have the hand strength to rack and lock the slide back.

    ETA: The striker design is somewhat fragile and strikers tend to fail at some point, usually after a great deal of dry fire or multiple hundreds of rounds. Sometimes there is a warning with light strikes and sometimes they fail without warning. Purportedly, there is an aftermarket striker that is more substantial.
     
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    I have both the P32 and CW380. Recoil feels the same to me. What you are going to love is the much better, smooth trigger pull of the Kahr.
     
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    I had a CM9 that had perfect reliability, even with hollow-points. Right now i have a CW380 that i’m currently breaking in. Went to the range today and put about 125 through it with no issues whatsoever (couldn't shoot the whole 200 because these little bastards tear your hands up).

    I’d have to say due to reliability (in my experience), build quality, extremely small size, smooth trigger, comfortable recoil and light weight, Kahr is my favorite brand for small “pocket” 9’s and .380’s.
     
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    There is no reason a properly engineered and constructed handgun should need to waste hundreds of shots to miraculously become reliable. Glocks don't need to fire a single shot to be "reliable" - straight out of the box they're combat ready. I've built guns from scratch and 60-80% frames that were reliable from shot number one. I even built a "Glock" by welding together a sheet-steel grip frame and installing all Glock parts in it and it shot reliably from the first shot!
    So I am NOT one to believe any modern handgun should demand hundreds of shots to "break in".
    With that said, my very first Kahr was almost my last - P380 that simply refused to work. It would refuse to chamber about 5/7ths of the time, meaning it NEVER made it through an entire magazine. Because it was a Kahr with a reputation for being better than most, and because it was an expensive Kahr (CA model) I decided to just go with the break-in nonsense. Several hundred rounds of every conceivable kind later the gun was no better. Along the way I had already figured out the problem but I was just "waiting" to see when the miracle would happen. It didn't. The oversize extractor was not providing enough "give" to allow the rounds to make the transition from magazine to chamber. I pulled the slide cover and the extractor spring and spacer rod. The coil spring was so long that when compressed into the tunnel it formed a near solid column. No wonder the extractor NEVER "broke in" and no amount of shooting was ever going to cause that to happen. I clipped off several coils - 2 or 3 I don't remember and freed up the extractor so I could move it laterally with a fingertip, put it back together and the little gun went from overpriced, POS problem, to working perfectly! That's not a break in issue, it's a QC issue. On my more recent Kahr pistols no such problems existed and they came out of the box performing very, VERY well! I did take the liberty of snipping a few coils from the magazine springs since they came about 2.5x longer than the mag bodies and with the .40 that REALLY helps the slide transition those blunt-nose bullets up the highly polished freed ramp! My PM40 works perfectly, and my P40 was just a snick behind it, requiring a couple of applications of thumb to fully close the slide during the initial 50 rounds.
     
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    Mine eats all I have fed it. After adding a couple 9 shields, I don’t carry it often, but it is utterly reliable


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    Well in all fairness, mine did need a break in and went back to Kahr who offered great service by the way. Now it is a little tack driver like 4 other Kahrs in 9mm I own.
     
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    The only "problem" I had with my CW 9 was, not using the "slide lock" as a release, the "slide lock" is the way to release the slide, not slingshot !! (so says Kahr)
    Works 100% otherwise....nice gun...
     
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    I wish I could say the same about mine. Definitely more rounds than the required “break in” through it and I keep having failure to return to battery issues. It’s perfect weight, low recoil, but still can’t trust the thing yet. Some ammo runs better than others in it. It’s sat in the safe for almost two years now, maybe my next project will be making it reliable. It sucks because I really love everything everything else about the pistol.

    That’s awesome yours is reliable though and congrats on the new gun!
     
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    My CW45 shoots excellent, eats everything, reliable and conceals reasonably well, though it needs a holster like a Pegasus.


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