Just to Brush Up on History -- Details of The Spanish Flu

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  1. 50 Cent

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    Sorry title should be Details etc.
     

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    It was a bad pandemic for sure. My doctor read up on it this summer what with the COVID pandemic to see what the similarities were. He said it was remarkably the same. They had masks, isolation, shut downs, and people unhappy with those things.
     
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    Both sets of grandparents lived through the Spanish Flu pandemic. They were either in their early teens to their mid twenties.
     
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    It was the favourite subject of my biochemistry professor at Fordham. He lived through it, first in Europe as an Army Officer and then when he came home.
    He would talk about it at every opportunity. He said every guy he had ever lifted a glass with and every girl he had kissed , or wanted to, died.
    His most often stated comment when telling us about the flu pandemic; “If you want to have a strong immune system, RIDE THE SUBWAY EVERY DAY.”
    He was a religious brother, wore the rough wool clothing, he had a lab adjoining Jonas Salk at Rockefeller University on the east side of Manhattan.
     
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    208401"]Both sets of grandparents lived through the Spanish Flu pandemic. They were either in their early teens to their mid twenties.[/QUOTE]

    The ages of the of the most afflicted group.
     
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    But it was significantly more deadly.
     
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    All that mask wearing contributed to the high mortality, people died of bacterial pneumonia and not the flu.

    Today, since they would have a positive test for the Chinese flu, we would claim they were a flu death and not a bacterial pneumonia death.
     
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    Absolutely. I didn't make it real clear, he was referring to response to the pandemic and how people felt about the response being very similar.
     
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    All my grand parents lived through it.

    Everyone went about normal daily life.
     
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    My grandmother's sister died from it but everyone else survived.
     
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    When the hospitals in Boston got full they put patients outdoors on Boston Common.
    The patients outdoors in the fresh air and sunshine had a much better survival rate than the patients in the hospital
     
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    My grandparents all lived through it. I was never familiar with it. I wish I would have known and asked them about it.
     
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    This is what people thought for years afterwards due to the symptoms, but it turned out they where mistaken. The flu was the actual killer. It targeted the lungs in a way striking similar to bacterial pneumonia.

    H1N1 was reconstructed in the lab in 2005 and then very carefully studied. It looks to have been of a mammalian (probably swine) flue origin that picked up HA genes from bird flue. The HA gene made it 100 times more lethal than other flues examined in mice.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/reconstruction-1918-virus.html
     
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    In the 1990s and 2000s there are anti biotic resistant pneumonia.

    Patients get ill with the flu. Progress to pneumonia, infection spread . Death from the infection cause cardiac failure due to non control heart rate.

    Death certificate pneumonia.
     
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    Patients get ill with the flu. Progress to pneumonia, infection spread . Death from the infection cause cardiac failure due to non control heart rate.

    Death certificate pneumonia.[/QUOTE]

    I was in the hospital a couple of years ago - ICU for 17 days. After recovery I got a copy of the medical report. They had me on fentanyl for days. First Oxy - higher and higher doses to build up immunity. Then fentanyl. I was unconscious the entire time.

    I asked them why pain killers? They said my heart rate and BP increased to levels that they feared a stroke or heart attack. I don't remember seeing that I had pneumonia - I think it was acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). This is similar to Coronavirus. I know they were using 'proning therapy' on me. I'd explain what it is - but just Google it and you'll see. They had me taped down so I wouldn't pull my tubes out.
     
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