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Just Ordered Some Polycase Ammo!

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Made in Austria, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Made in Austria

    Made in Austria

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    Just ordered some .380 ACP polycase ammo in pink :shocked:. Not that I need it or anything, but I was curious if this is really the future. The army seems to be anxious about this polycase ammo since it is a lot lighter than conventional ammo.

    Check it out: http://www.polycaseammo.com/
     
  2. Tiro Fijo

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    Price = everything here. If someone loads polymer cased range ammo cheaper than metallic and IF it is good then they will soon be rich. By the prices I see on the link this co. is not doing that. :whistling:
     

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    Pink? For yourself?
     
  4. Made in Austria

    Made in Austria

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    I know right, the prices didn't look very attractive to me either. I can get a box of 25 Hornady Critical Defense in .380 Auto at Bass Pro for the same price (~$20). Polycaseammo says that their poly ammo is not reloadable. So I guess this ammo is only attractive to the military and nothing more than a funny gimmick for civilians. But, still I had to order a box in case it becomes something not everyone has or even heard of.
     
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  5. Made in Austria

    Made in Austria

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    My wife has a .380 Ruger LCP, she likes pink stuff. Also, I thought it might be funny to have some pink ammo on hand.
     
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    uz2bUSMC 10mm defender

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    .....k.
     
  7. Merkavaboy

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    Let us know how well it functions.
     
  8. dkf

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    Looks like it has a brass or steel rim?

    Not reloadable = Not for me
     
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    I hope it doesn't take off. I wish everyone would shoot brass and then leave it all for me .
     
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    "It eliminates re-loading". (from the company claims)

    This is the future? eliminating personal reloading of ammunition so the government just waits until the brass is gone and now they control ammunition?

    I am really in favor of technology advancement, but this is a threat to personal weapons. Better than bans and taxes. Just mandate poly-Al cases and you have total control after a couple of years, without protest.

    Sure, I'm paranoid. It's kept me alive for a long time.
     
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    I hope it doesn't take off. But I have a feeling it will sooner or later. Poly ammo has just too many advantages, right now I can think only of one disadvantage of this ammo which is, it's not reloadable. The problem is that there are not a whole lot of reloaders out there which would never buy plastic ammo crap.
     
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    I really don't think we need more products that are made primarily of oil which we use once and throw away.(have plenty of those already) I would also be interested if it will divot when loaded into a mag for long periods of time.
     
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    The government would have to make a pretty interesting argument to justify outlawing brass cases or mandate that they all be polymer. If they do this, you can be damn sure its gonna be challenged in the courts and will probably make it all the way to the Supreme Court. They cannot just come right out and say "we want to to this as a back door way to ban civilian handloading of ammunition." That will be shot down really fast, probably even by some of the more liberal justices on the court. I also don't see how they could claim it is more environmentally friendly to use polymer cases or that polymer cases are somehow safer. It's an obvious infringment on the Second Amendment and also it's not a valid use of the Commerce Clause or Necessary and Proper Clause.

    Basically, if such a law were passed, the government would have a really hard time justifying it.
     
  14. LSUAdman

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    This is really interesting. A few years ago, my brother in law and I were talking at Christmas and he was telling me how his company was developing poly-ammo for the military. It went on for a few years, but I dont think the .mil ended up using the technology - at least not in the quanitity that my brother in law thought they would.

    Part of the RFP that I thought was interesting was that they .mil requested that the cases not be reloadable. I thought , "duh, how could it be reloadable." But, my PHD brother in law says they actually did get a prototype .223 to reload twice before the case was unusable.

    In the first generation, these cases were highly unstaible. He showed me the remnants of several bushmaster lower receivers that ka-boomed. I wonder if this company has links to that research or developed this on their own.
     
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    about 4 to 6 years ago a different company (or perhaps the same company under a different name) also made polymer cased ammo...I remember seeing .38 special and .223 Remington; it was here & gone in a matter months; I should have snagged a few boxes of the .38 special for nostaliga;

    guess what my point is that this has been tried before and didn't catch on...
     
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    This is the worst idea since small primer .45 auto ammo.
     
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    interested in how it shoots.....also how long in the clip
     
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    AMEN, brother. :cool:
     
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    I don't think it is a bad idea.
    As all technology it will advance and get better.
    So yes it was tried before and failed but thats not a reason to give up on something.
    The price point too will come down if critical mass production is reached and thus will be cheaper then Brass or metal shells.
    Their is also no reason why Brass and Poly ammo can't live side by side.
    It does not have to be only one or the other.

    Good example is when the first poly frame guns came to market.
    That too was the worse Idea ever, said by all the gun fans at the time.
     
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    I think that it is interesting, however, for it to be successful it must be cheaper than the other alternatives. The CCI Blazer aluminum case is not cheap enough to replace brass and steel cases for most of us. The nylon jacket is also not cheap enough to replace the plated/jacketed bullet. Today, steel cases is the cheapest and used by many. The only current downside to steel is that some ranges do not allow it. Also, many of us will use US made ammo when the price difference is not too great.
    Cabelas TNJ offering is good range ammo, just not cheaper than WWB or Federal from Walmart (that is copper and re-loadable)