Just because a cartridge isn't popular doesn't mean that it's not any good.

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  1. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank "Don't Tread On Me!"

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    I've notice that out of all the Glock chamberings offered the 45GAP, 10mm Auto and 357Sig seem to be the least popular with the GAP leading the way. Granted, a lot probably has to do with the 9x19mm and 45acp being around so long and the 40cal being adopted by so many Law Enforcement Agencies but for some reason the other 3 rounds offered by Glock have only a nitch group of followers. I really love my 45GAP guns and I've had 10mm in both the Glock G20 and G29 and they were pretty good as well. Never had a 357Sig as of yet, my lack of love for the 40cal kind of keeps me from giving one a try because I'm afraid it'll be "same crap, different day" with the Sig round but still, it does intrigue me quite a bit.
    I just wonder why these rounds never really caught on like I think they should have. Anyone want to venture a reason?
     
  2. MO Fugga

    MO Fugga Malt Liqra® Lifetime Member

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    After getting a 10, the .40 does nothing for me. I tried the .357 in a conversion barrel, and just prefer a heavier bullet. I like a .45, but it'll never be a GAP.
     
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  3. TnShooter83

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    None yet have been adopted by military.
    None that I know of any ways.

    That's my guess.
     
  4. CDW4ME

    CDW4ME Enigma

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    I have all three niche calibers.
    The 10mm and 45 GAP are easy to hand load, 357 Sig - not so much.
    I like the calibers, but I'm an enthusiast and appreciate small advantages, even if they are perceived. ;)
     
  5. ChuteTheMall

    ChuteTheMall Wallbuilder and Weapon Bearer

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    The .45 GAP will not outlast Gaston himself.
     
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    I am sure a lot has to do with cheap ammo. For a non reloader, ammo cost is really important. If you want to shoot a 357sig, 45gap or 10mm, you should be reloading for it. I can reload full power ammo in all three for 1/2 the cost of factory 9mm.
    I was really hesitant to get into the 357sig. Then a buddy gave me 500rds of ammo & I had to get a bbl to give it a try. I really like the round, a 9mm on steroids. If you are a vel nut, then you need a 357sig in the stable.:number1:
    I like the idea of the 45gap but since I shoot so much 45acp, just not worth the brass hassle. Not to mention I get free 45acp, 9 & 40 brass & would have to buy GAP.
     
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    That's an interesting question. The same applies to rifle cartridges. Some really catch on, and others don't. And what's popular changes over time. I think with hand gun rounds, it's more about how a caliber is generally percieved than it's actual performance. Availability is a matter of demand. That's the whole explanation for what is on the shelves, whether yr into hand loading or not.
     
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    I own firearms strictly for self-defense. Of the two handgun calibers I own for this specific purpose I will always prefer .357sig although due to the size of the pistol a 9mm gets CCW duty most of the time.

    When and if a .357sig pistol appears in the same or smaller size platform as the 9mm and has proven reliable/durable count me "all in".
     
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    Most pistol (and rifle for that matter) cartridges are unnecessary. They don't do anything that can't be done by one of the others. 9mm and 45ACP have a serious head start on most others, but even they are redundant to each other. The only thing keeping most calibers alive is that people have picked them for one reason or another.
     
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    Just like my fav the 25-06 rem
     
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    It already does. The G33, same as a G26. The Sig p239, same in 9 as 357sig.:headscratch:
     
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    I have never warmed up to having to curl my pinkie underneath the grip, which is why I don't own a G-33. The P239 is too heavy and just about the same size as my G-32.

    A G-43 or S&W Shield in .357sig would be perfect.
     
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    That would be a handful lol
     
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    The 9mm, .45, 38 Special and 357 Magnum have been around longer than any of us have been alive and have all been used as police calibers at one time. The .40 is newer but has benefited from wide spread police use, the 357 Sig, 10mm and .45 GAP have not seen wide spread use by LEA and so are not well known or accepted by the general public. Also the fact that gun owners are so vested and entrenched by many years and multi generation ownership and use of the 9mm and .45 that they are reluctant to move out of their calibers of comfort. As far as SD use goes the 357 Sig, 10mm and 45GAP equal or exceed other service calibers in being effective fight stoppers, popularity does not correlate with effectiveness!
     
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    Well you said same or smaller & those are identical to their 9mm counterpart. Tough to get small guns to fit large hands. At some point you have to drop to a smaller rd & I just won't. My 239 is between a g43 & g19, but 8+1. Not really heavy, the frame is alloy. Total loaded wt, basically identical to the slightly larger g19. I love mine, easy to shoot, 125gr at 1300fps+.
     
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    The popularity issue comes back to the "everyman" issues: limited experience, limited finances. If the caliber is common, cost for factory ammo is less. If the recoil is low acceptance by new shooters is higher. High volume shooters, long range shooters and special application big game or varmit hunters have their favorites. A stock 9mm auto, 223 Rifle and 12 gauge with a .22 LR cover most needs. Rifle geeks will use 220 Swift, big bore guys have 338 Lapua and handgun power first guys and gals have 10mm pistols and 500 Linebaugh, etc.
     
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    I don't care about reloading. I want an effective caliber that is accurate and easy to shoot.
    Despite the urban myths, the .357 sig is not difficult to shoot and I find it to be inherently accurate. I find follow up shots to be easier with .357 than .40.

    As far as LE use, FAMS and Secret Service have stuck with it while other agencies have gone .40 or 9.
     
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    I was wanting a Glock 32 just because I do NOT have 357 sig in my arsenal
     
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    G29 is EDC. G20 woods gun. bought brass and loaded over 2m, practice practice practice. 10mm is an impressive round. about as much fun as an old geezer can have with clothes on!
     
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    It's all about tradition. Why do we play baseball? We humans love to affix meaning to arbitrary motions of our lives. I shoot .45s because my dad tought me with one. I love my dad=I love .45.
     
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