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Florida Carry has filed suit against the University of North Florida for their policy banning student firearms in vehicles on campus...

http://www.floridacarry.org/index.p...ing-lot-gun-ban&catid=21:statecourt&Itemid=32

A little more info from the local news:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topsto...ent-Gun-Rights

Here's part of FS 790.15 that is under contention in the suit:
[snip] however, a person may carry a firearm:
1. In a case to a firearms program, class or function which has been approved in advance by the principal or chief administrative officer of the school as a program or class to which firearms could be carried;
2. In a case to a career center having a firearms training range; or
3. In a vehicle pursuant to s. 790.25(5); except that school districts may adopt written and published policies that waive the exception in this subparagraph for purposes of student and campus parking privileges.

For the purposes of this section, “school” means any preschool, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, secondary school, career center, or postsecondary school, whether public or nonpublic.


 

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Looks like the law is pretty clear. The school makes the rules. The students salute and say "Yes Sir!" If the legislators wanted students to be able to cc, they should have clearly included that provision.
 

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The law IS clear. Universities are not 'school districts' and cannot waive the parking lot exemption.
 

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The law IS clear. Universities are not 'school districts' and cannot waive the parking lot exemption.
Ummm... Post Secondary schools are Universities.

I don't see how this is any different than a business restricting carry? The college is a business and therefore they have the right to define the rules on their property. The law is clear about students applying for a parking permit. So my understanding would be that a non-student parking where permits are not required could still possess a firearm in their vehicle.
 

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Ummm... Post Secondary schools are Universities.

I don't see how this is any different than a business restricting carry? The college is a business and therefore they have the right to define the rules on their property. The law is clear about students applying for a parking permit. So my understanding would be that a non-student parking where permits are not required could still possess a firearm in their vehicle.
Big difference between a public university and a private business...and Florida prohibits businesses from banning weapons in parking lots for employees. They have no legal standing to ban them in customers vehicles either...

I think it's ridiculous that I can't carry when I go to class. The state "trusts" me to carry everywhere else with no issue but something about my Digital Signal Processing class is supposed to make me a crazed killer.
 

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And he's the director of a statewide gun rights group, everyone. Yay for not having a clue on how to read the law.

If your assertion were correct, please define "postsecondary school" for us all.
I can read the law just fine, thanks. Perhaps you should give another try.

Firearms are prohibited at post secondary schools EXCEPT as provided in FS 790.25 (possession in a private conveyance). School districts can waive that exception for campus and student parking priveleges. State universities are not school districts as defined by law.

Which part are you having trouble with?
 

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In light of the fact that Universities receive state and federal funding (Read Taxpayer monies) for various programs, AND the state legislates the carrying of a handgun.......

Let's see where this goes.
 

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All hedges on the definition of school district. Having lived in FL the legislature there tends to be quite clear in their intent with their laws, read gun statutes. School district is defined in the state constitution, and university in not in that definition.
 

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All hedges on the definition of school district. Having lived in FL the legislature there tends to be quite clear in their intent with their laws, read gun statutes. School district is defined in the state constitution, and university in not in that definition.
I believe you are correct.

However, School Districts and the State University Board of Governors are clearly defined in the FL statutes:

1001.30 District unit.—Each county shall constitute a school district and shall be known as the school district of County, Florida. Each district shall constitute a unit for the control, organization, and administration of schools. The responsibility for the actual operation and administration of all schools needed within the districts in conformity with rules and minimum standards prescribed by the state, and also the responsibility for the provision of any desirable and practicable opportunities authorized by law beyond those required by the state, are delegated by law to the school officials of the respective districts.
History.—s. 36, ch. 2002-387.

1001.70 Board of Governors of the State University System.—(1) Pursuant to s. 7(d), Art. IX of the State Constitution, the Board of Governors is established as a body corporate comprised of 17 members as follows: 14 citizen members appointed by the Governor subject to confirmation by the Senate; the Commissioner of Education; the chair of the advisory council of faculty senates or the equivalent; and the president of the Florida student association or the equivalent. The appointed members shall serve staggered 7-year terms. In order to achieve staggered terms, beginning July 1, 2003, of the initial appointments, 4 members shall serve 2-year terms, 5 members shall serve 3-year terms, and 5 members shall serve 7-year terms.
 
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