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Let's not be too harsh. Just because it fails drop tests, the trigger pak self destructs, and it can't reliably feed ball ammo...

Did I miss anything?

Well, being that its based on such a super high quality specimen called the P250, I'm really shocked to hear all this...


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Compared to both the G19 and the APX the 320 felt very cheap to me.

Oh without question, especially the APX.

 

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How does a pistol eject a live round without manually cycling the slide? Do the rounds pop out of the magazine as the slide ejects the spent cartridge? Does this leave the pistol with an empty chamber or does it manage to pick up another round and chamber it?

I’ve had a gun do that before. It ejected the spent case, a live round, and chambered the third round.

Not sure if this is the same or not.

 

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Glad my Sigs are all metal and older models....

That makes two of us...

What a POS this thing is.

 

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Glad that title was sarcasm. I thought you had lost your mind.

:rofl:

You know be better than that, Bren :supergrin:

 

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My son is on committee that's looking to buy 2500 pistols and another 2500 BUGs from same maker. The SIG 320 is being considered and the front runner last time I talked to him.

Hopefully they consider something else...

 

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Never should have left the 1911, just modernized it.

Well, they went one icon in the 1911 to another in the M9. Then they follow it up with this?

What an embarrassment...

 

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It is too bad they did not follow what the Ministry of Defense in the UK did 5 years ago...

https://www.military.com/dodbuzz/2013/02/07/mod-adopts-glock-takes-stand-on-side-arms

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...Armed-Forces-get-new-Glock-17-9mm-pistol.html

Yeah well, they got the Sig on the super duper cheap...

Most times, you get what you pay for.

 

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The Beretta M9a3 would have been a good choice.
So Sig got tired of the consumer being the R&D, and has migrated the R&D to the military.

Sure seems like it Gino :dunno:

 

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I find it odd that there are tens of thousands of P320 pistols being used by civilian shooters and yet there's no uproar over live rounds being ejected from those pistols. Did SIG supply Uncle Sam with a bad batch of magazines, or is the XM1152 ammo defective, or what?

If the civilian pistols work fine and the military ones don't, then the basic design should be sound and the problems fixable.

It may have something to do with the amount of use they get.

Having said that, not all civilians are happy with them.

 

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I looked at a brand new one at a gun store, thing had scrapes and gouges all over the frame. I have a G19 I've been carrying for 4-5 years and has no such wear. I felt the same about the 320, not impressed. Then again I feel like I'm the only one to think the shield feels cheap too.

Yes, very cheap polymer in that regard. Whether the gun works well or not is obviously debatable. The amount of wear the gun shows is not.

As a carry gun, that woukdn’t bother me much, but I know it does some.

 

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To those that believe the P320 and the Shield has "cheap" polymer.... can you show us all the documented failures? Given the Shield has been out for forever and over a million sold the P320 is no slouch in sales either, this should be easy to point out.

I only mentioned cheap in regards to marking up. I don’t have enough experience with the P250 or P320 to claim anything more.

 

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Boy, the whining and crying and excuse-making goes on and on and on. Its really quiet sad to see that so many are stuck in the past - like the Democrats are stuck in November, 2016 - while time marches on.

Lame. It’s not sad at all. I’m no Glock fanboy that wishes the army chose it. I’m not whining and crying.

I’m laughing.

I do hope they get it fixed. Not for the sake of those clowns in Exeter, but for the sake of the military.

 

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Lol.. On a side note there is a guy on another forum selling a W German P220...in The Lehigh Valley..

Nice

I’ve got a couple of those in 9mm, the original caliber.

 

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You have all the fun toys....

Got my P226 in 40SW from Surplus City recently....police turn in with little wear..

Cool

Congrats!

 

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OMG, don’t say the “F” word to him. :faint:



:eyebrow:

:animlol:

 

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No, seems like you've caught everything... SO FAR!

It’s still early

 

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Beretta APX FTW.

That’s a solid gun for sure. My guess is that it will hold up well over time.

 

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I'm feeling a bit old, when a Gen 3 Glock is considered "old school". :fred:
:faint:

:rofl:

True, Bucky...