[Green Dragoon]

Very true.

why do you believe this is true? Have you handled them side by side? I can't find a USP in my area.

 

[grumpy1]

why do you believe this is true? Have you handled them side by side? I can't find a USP in my area.

USPs don't sell very well, at least around here. MY LGS has a lot of HKs buy rarely a USP these days. I tried a couple USPs before they but did not like them and shot the HK45 and P30L a lot better so that are the ones I bought. With the USP you are stuck with the grip you get while the P30 and VP9 have changeable back straps and palm inserts. Your best best bet as usual is to try out whatever you are considering if possible.

Link below is to a bit older thread that Ernest Langdon started about the HK P30 and he was very impressed with it.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?8821-Why-the-P30

Todd Green's 91,000 round endurance test of the HK P30 and other commentary on his thoughts on the P30.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/2668
https://pistol-training.com/archives/7623

 

[A-Train]

I’m a big fan of the P30 pistols and find their quality and durability to be similar to that of the USP series. The VP9 pistols have owned and shot seemed like a definite step down (though not huge) from some of the other older staple pistols in the HK lineup.

I would still say the VP9 seems better made than a Glock.

 

[gatorboy]

Seems the P2K and P2Ksk have dropped the least in price % wise. I'm seeing new USP Tacticals in 40 and 9mm at least for $700. I've seen new LE VP 40T's for under $500. I'm looking for the cheapest V2 P2K I can find and they're around $650-$700, more than I paid for mine new in 2013. I also managed to snag a bunch of new mags for it @ $20/each. Not seeing it; any heads up?

 

[nra-life-member]

I could use mags. USP (45c 8 rd and 45 12 rd) and P30 (9mm 15 rd). Where is the best price?? Would also like a nice price on the X-Grip for a P30 15 rd 9mm into a P2000SK

 

[Cricoid]

I bought a P30SK a couple of weeks ago for $530. Never would have bought it if not for the price drop. It's a great gun and it shoots well, but it's a mass-produced polymer pistol. My M&P9c is nearly as nice, and I think I paid $399 for it a couple of years ago. I wouldn't pay $800+ for any handgun that isn't a 1911, but that's just me.

I say kudos to HK for cutting prices.

 

[cal45]

Just picked up this new in box USP 45 Tactical w/adjustable night sights from a fellow member. These are still rather pricey.

 

[Warp]

The VP series of pistols is fantastic and the reasonable pricing is great.

I'm at 6,400 rounds combined through my VP's and that number is climbing rapidly as I don't shoot anything else now (they had been secondary to Glocks). Only stoppage was a single FTRTB in the first 150 rounds through one of the VP9's using cheap bulk weak 115gr ammo...ammo they all run perfectly thereafter.

They even reliably (100%) feed spent/empty pieces of brass. They just shoot so well (better than the Glocks I have far more trigger time on), eat everything, and run and run.

VP9SK Super Test. Times for each distance written on target

 

[arnold ziffle]

a local store had elites and experts nib on sale for 999. if i didn't already have one i would have bought one.

 

[HAMMERHEAD]

Just picked up a used USP 45 for $550. KF ('95) date code. Someone's safe queen. (or they just didn't like shooting it) Looks brand new, couldn't be more than a couple mags through it. Very impressive piece of polymer. Really first rate. It's my 5th USP.
I had no complaints at all with my 2 American made guns, HK45 and an HK45C. Very well built, but the USP is the zenith of polymer guns.

 

[joeG26er]

Well, my wife would argue that I'm not as good as I once was so I can relate. LOL. Good to know either way. Thanks again.

But do you have conventional rifling?