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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by ColCol, Aug 12, 2010.
I saw this recently and wondered if it was too good to be true.
Bullseye, Unique and 2400, covers the gambit of everything you need for pistol rounds. Spend the money you save on pizza and beer.
(Is the pot stirred sufficiently? )
Wasnt this 'cleaner' version released about ten years ago?
(I saw no real difference in 'residue' over .45 acp cases loaded with Unique vs. 231; however, Unique makes perfectly serviceable loads for: 9mm, .380, .38 Super, .38 Spec, .357 Mg, .41 Mag, .44 Spec, 44 Mag...; very versatile)
Well, I know by experience that BE & Unique have a wide application range, but there are better powders available for tweeking one's needs. I still use BE but will be replacing it with a cleaner burning powder when this opened 8# keg is finished.
No idea. I wasn't reloading ten years ago. Last account I had, Hercules still made Unique. I didn't get back into reloading until recently after a 12 year lull.
Well, I'll concede that it is that it is a versatile powder and is cleaner than the original version. That said, it wasn't a far reach to be "cleaner" and IMO, it's still akin to flamable dirt. For someone wanting to limit the variety of powers on the shelf, it fits that bill very well.
I've got some of both that I'll probably die and leave for fertilizer. For my loading needs, there's something else that does virtually everything I need better...and, cleaner in the bargain. I will say that cleanliness of various powders is sometimes over-emphasized (myself included) but in truth, a really dirty gun ain't much more trouble to clean than a slightly dirty one.
I like Unique.
I use BE under 125gr LCNs as an economical round for use in several 9's including a P226. I may shoot 250-300 rounds during a range session. The amount of caked powder residual atop the locking block has to be scraped off. This doesn't occur with other tested powders. That's why I consider BE a dirty powder. Granted, there is NO powder that burns clean enough to eliminate the need for cleaning.
Thanks for posting this, I didn't realize that they had changed Unique's formulation (always the last to know).
I recently bought four pounds of the stuff. I'm glad to hear that it is no longer the same chamber fouling stuff that I learned to love twenty years ago. Come to think of it, my guns are running a little cleaner of late.
Unique works fine but it is not the cleanest burning powder. I like it for cast loads in 45 long colt and 9mm. One more thing it does not meter very well large flakes do not drop like finer powders.
I couldn't agree more. I started reloading in 1964 and Bullseye, Unique, and 2400 were the only pistol powders that my small local gun shop carried (in 11 ounce cans for $1.80!). I use lots of other powders now, but could easily get by with the old standards. I believe Unique was introduced in 1899 and Alliant still has a sample from the original lot that they test from time to time. They had an ad a number of years ago that claimed that the original sample still met modern specs for the powder.
The clean versus dirty question has always been a non-issue for me - my guns and cartridge cases look the same after cleaning as with any other powder. My only complaint about Unique is that it doesn't meter well with small charges because of the large flakes, so I don't use it for loads below 4.5 grains.
By the way, the word you're looking for is gamut, not gambit.
Jack the word is bad not bed.
Have your coffee before posting
I wake up in a drug induced fog, the coffee is still brewing and I've only had half a cigarette... what the hell do you people expect, Shakespeare?
Besides, I don't proofread anything I'm not getting paid for. (Really need to start proofreading those prenuptial contracts more carefully.)
Unique didn't work well for me in .380, the loads I tried in my LCP wouldn't even cycle the the gun. I loaded up a small batch with bullseye and win231 much, much better. i had my wife run 150rds of each thru her elsie no failure of any kind. As far as dirty, not much to complain on there either, some eezox and a bore brush she's good to go.The other powder I tried was reddot, same as unique, it wouldn't function the LCP.
As long as we're talking limitations,
In Ken Waters Pet Loads, he felt that Unique did not provide its usual outstanding accuracy with .45 ACP lead bullets. He speculated that it was something to do with needing a jacketed bullet to develop adequate pressure.
I say it is really that much BAD! Yes, it has a wide range of applications BUT it is really dirty and smokes a lot - to the point that a double tap on my pistol I had to litteraly wait for the smoke to settle down. I will not buy Unique again unless I have no other choice.
I don't know yet still working through a old 8# keg! Almost gone though! After how many years.....darn I'm getting old!Only use it for my light 44 mag loads, which you can shoot all day long!
Jack-I think you need one of them love dolls.