Is there anyone here naive enough to believe anything will come from the Russia Hoax or Huntergate?

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  1. uhlawpup

    uhlawpup l'Italia s'è desta

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    As a former broadcaster, this is easy to address.
    The mainstream media are revenue driven, and, except in the case of public broadcasters like PBS, that revenue comes from advertising. If you address the advertisers directly about your concern in a civil way, and tell them you will no longer patronize them, they will pull their ads. In the case of publicly owned broadcasters, simply do not donate to them, and lobby your elected officials to pull public money support from those who would undermine our country. It makes a whole lot more sense to me than an armed revolt of any type.

    What I propose will be neither quick nor easy, but I bet it will work.
     
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  2. inthefrey

    inthefrey Moved on...

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    Once you enter that DC beltway sphere of lawlessness, nobody ever goes to jail... It is a completely different set of rules for them. I'm sure everyone remembers, "..no controlling legal authority..."? He was, unfortunately, correct.
     
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    Don't flatter yourself. Just pointing out the predictable groupthink responses.

    Larry
     
  4. Pistol Pap

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    If Trump wins it goes away. If he loses, republicans will pursue for the next four years
     
  5. slackercruster

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    No, it would make a good segue for Harris to take over and pardon Biden.
     
  6. nrajeff

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    It should work that way but doesn’t because billionaires prop up failing newspapers to keep them going e.g. Washington Post.
     
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  7. uhlawpup

    uhlawpup l'Italia s'è desta

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    They can’t do that for long, and, if they are indeed billionaires, they are too smart to even try. I don’t think you’ll find any newspaper, magazine, radio or television station or network, running commercial free and living on a billionaires largesse. Not one.
     
  8. nrajeff

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    Some billionaires may care more about promoting their Left-wing ideology (coughSoroscough) than they do about always making a profit. And they can afford to do that for quite a while before their net worth is exhausted.

    A bit of a straw man there, perhaps, since that's not anything I suggested. But the Unification Church kept the Wash Times afloat for years, and the SL Tribune was kaput until the Deseret News bailed them out for some reason. It is a matter of record that the WP was headed for bankruptcy until Bezos bailed it out. He bought it for $250 million. His current net worth is over $100 BILLION I think. So he can afford to run that liberal rag in a deficit mode for quite a while before his money runs out. :)
     
  9. Trademark

    Trademark tabula rasa

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    President Trump will win the election. Biden will concede election night. Just like Hillary. Or, get indicted.
     
  10. jd4223

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    Remember the old saying"It's a lot easier to fool somebody than it is to convince them that they've been fooled" That's what's happened to almost half the country.
     
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    SomeBody might get scapegoated eventually. Nobody of any significance is going to be held accountable.
     
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  12. Vic777

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    If Trump loses, it all goes away, America will be over. The World can return to the natural order from before 1776. Rulers and surfs.
     
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  13. Vic777

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    There are a lot of people thriving in the Swamp. The Lieberals spread your money around to their relatives etc.
     
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    Too many people on this forum underestimate Trump...He ran for justice, for Americans and America itself. People need to be held accountable for the long term viability of our legal system, so I concur, somebody is going down and it won't be pretty...for them. For the people and country, it's necessary.
     
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    Trump has only himself to blame for this. Literally every single appointee he has picked so far is a neocon Swamp Creature.


    Pick neocon Swamp Creature appointees, get neocon Swamp Creature results.


    Did he really think Barr was going to investigate the Deep State? Barr was George HW Bush's Attorney-General, has family ties to Epstein, and has spent his entire adult life as a DC Swamp Insider.

    This is the guy Trump picks to investigate the Deep State? You've got to be joking.


    It's the same with all his other appointees.


    If he wants to get results, he should stop appointing Bush era RINOs to key positions in the government.


    If he continues to appoint all neocon RINOs, he can complain on Twitter as much as he likes, but nothing significant is going to get done.
     
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    He wouldn't be the only person if he picked MAGA people to appoint to top positions, instead of Bush era neocon RINOs.


    Since he continually appoints neocon Swamp Creatures to the most important positions, he shouldn't be surprised when he gets neocon Swamp Creature results.
     
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    When Biden said that "I took no money from any foreign government", I believe him.

    Not because he's an honest fella. But because 47yrs in DC should equip him on how to structure monetary transfers so that there was no direct transfer from a government to him. AFAIK, direct transfer can easy Be construed as a crime. They worked around that. Others worked around that.

    People don't get charged, especially the writters of the law, because they know how to disguise activities and dilute the flow of funds. Not because they live under a different set of rules (as we naively referred to).

    In this case, Chinese energy company (now defunct) sent funds to US company(ies) which was a partnership between Biden family members (but not Joe). Funds got commingled with other funds, then went through accounting activities that subtracted expenses and salaries. Then distributed to partners. Money in partners hand (family members) got commingled with other personal funds. Then some of that got to Joe. None of that appeared to be a crime. It's a wild stretch to say that the exact $100 in Joe's pocket came from the Chinese government.

    In Clinton case, money was given to a "foundation", not Clinton personal account.

    No law was broken. They know, because they wrote the laws. Lay people don't know because they can only assume what the law should say.

    The Law and Reality are two different things.

    In reality, it was unethical, a breach of trust from the voters.
    It compromised the presumed to be elected officials. It allowed influence to be bought.
    But that's what attracting ragtag lawyers from a small state to gain fame and became millionaires many time overs.

    Here's some heresay for you. Do you think Lady Bird Johnson was really poor? How do you think $35M from Taiwanese was disguised to the Clintons? How did Obama get the cash to buy $11M homes ? Are the Bushes really pure ? Then how dare an outsider DJT came to disrupt all of this!
     
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  18. jeanderson

    jeanderson Making America great again!

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    I don't disagree with any of what you say. But who is he going to pick? All outsiders?

    It's the conundrum of Washington. The bureaucracy is so enormous, and yes, the corruption so deep, you need insiders with experience to get anything done. You need people with power. And anyone who has the power has likely achieved it through some nefarious means.

    I hate Washington. It's evil. It represents everything that's wrong with government. Our founders never imagined a federal government that would have this much power and money. They were geniuses, but they underestimated the underhandedness of people.
     
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  19. Emily W Trott

    Emily W Trott Electric Sex

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    It was probably a very effective mechanism for enforcing good behavior. Of course if we were back in those days we probably would not have someone like President Trump. He'd most likely be dead after losing a duel over his having insulted someone's wife. ;)
     
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  20. bdcochran

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    Go ahead and call me naive.
    The IRS proved in the Manafort and Cohen matters that it was unable to identify and deal with tax fraud. It took regular DOJ personnel, including prosecutors to find the tax frauds and unreported income.

    These investigations will probably deal with the reviews that the IRS avoided or were incapable of doing. Although millions will be spent on tax investigations, future tax cheats with contacts at the highest levels of the federal government may actually not hide so much of their income that would otherwise go unreported. :waving:
     
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