Is there a powder you like for rifle and pistol?

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  1. FiremanMike

    FiremanMike Way too busy

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    Is there a powder out there that you like for loading both your pistol and 223 cartridges? I'm already loading 9mm with titegroup but I'm wondering if there's a better option out there for me that will work well for loading 223 also..

    Thanks :)
     
  2. njl

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    Look at your loading manuals. AFAIK, there is no powder versatile enough to be appropriate for 9mm and .223. Rifle powders are much slower burners than pistol. Heck, if you load multiple rifle and pistol calibers, you're probably going to find you need more than two powders. i.e. Say you were going to load
    .30-06
    .223
    .30 carbine
    9mm
    .40s&w
    .45acp

    The first two could use the same powder. The last three could use the same powder. .30 carbine really needs its own powder.
     

  3. JohnW1963

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    I don't think so. Pistol powder has to burn fast due to the 4-5" barrels while rifles with 16-24" need a slower burning powder. I am loading 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP and have found a few powders that work for all three. I am also loading 223 and 30-06 and have found a few powders that will work for both, but even there I'm starting to look at caliber specific powder due to my 223 has a 16" barrel and my two 30-06's have 24" barrels.
     
  4. dudel

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    Unique would probably be the closest. However, it would not be my favorite for 223.

    Pistols are going to need a quick powder burn (relative to rifle) because of the shorter barrel lenght. A rifle powder would still be burning after the pistol round left the barrel. I'm liking Varget quite well for 223
     
  5. Zombie Steve

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    Not unless your pistol and rifle both shoot the same round (i.e. .357 mag, .44 mag).


    Maaaaybe magnum pistol rounds and something like .223 with IMR 4227.

    ???
     
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    NO! Not one that will work w/ those specifc calibers. You could cobble together some downloaded 223 w/ a slow pistol powder that would work for +P loads in the 9mm, but it requires a bit of reloading savey to go there, not recommended.
     
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    yeah if you must do it. get a lever gun and revolver to match.
     
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    Not for 9mm and .223. Too far apart in powder needs.

    .357 magnum and the .22 Hornet? Yes, quite a few.
     
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    I do this with 700x (left from trap shooting).

    4.5 grains in 9mm gives 115 grain bullets about 1050 fps.

    8.5 grains in .223 gives 55 grain bullets just over 2,000 fps.

    14.0 grains in 30-06 gives 125 grain bullets about 1800 fps.

    However, 700x meters poorly due to haveing large flakes.


    JerryO
     
  10. Gunnut 45/454

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    Yep do it all the time with my 357 mag pistol and carbine!! Same with 45 LC in pistol and carbine!! So you could as well unfortnately you'd have to buy a 9mm Carbine!:upeyes:
     
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    trail boss rocks! You can use it in just about any rifle round and pistol. Doesn't work in 9mm, but just about anything larger it works fine!
     
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  13. Desert Dude

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    I use Trail Boss in everything I shoot from .38spl thru 45 Long Colt and 45 ACP, including 45/70 Gov't. Great powder. Because of its shape you can not double charge a 38 or 45LC case. It overflows.