Is the United States weaker now?

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  1. Sgt127

    Sgt127

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    Im a little concerned that strategically, the United States is weak at this moment in Time.

    Not President Trump. I don’t think he is viewed by the world as weak in any way. Nor our military.

    The constant drumbeat against anything he does. The constant investigations. The never ending media blitz against anything he says or does with the full support of the democrats and an awful lot of Republicans does not make the United States look powerful to the rest of the world.

    I’m quite sure it’s intentional.

    During WWII, Americans dropped their differences and worked together. Made it happen.

    I’m not sure we would see that now. The derangement syndrome is so powerful, I think there are people that would allow a situation to truly damage the US. And, actively work with our enemies.

    Enemies cannot help but look at us and realize 2/3 of our own government has an obvious agenda against our President.

    I don’t have my doubts about the majority of the citizens, but I can’t even say the “vast” majority of Americans anymore.

    Strange times. The boat is being rocked, violently, and there’s a lot of people that don’t like it.

    Good.
     
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  2. rock_castle

    rock_castle Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

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    The vicious childish onslaught from the anti-America leftists in the media certainly isn’t helping. Trump is doing a magnificent job in spite of it though.
     
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  3. D-Ric902

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    As a country no
    As a people.....most likely
     
  4. G33

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    Yes thanks to communist democrats.
    :)
     
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    Considering the power the big Chief has at his sole discretion, I don't see a problem. And for sure I don't think we are any weaker than when B Hussein Obummer was in office. And we will be a whole lot stronger as Trump purges more fake conservatives out of power and shines a light on the swamp.
     
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    Yeah, we fight amongst ourselves some, but when threatened, we get riled, then real bad things happen to those doing the threatening. Strong countries have some strong problems, but don't even underestimate the ability of the US to kick ass! Potential adversaries would do well to remember what that Jap admiral said back in Dec. '41.
     
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  7. ROGER4314

    ROGER4314 Friends Call Me "Flash"

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    Our people are strong and always will be. When I hear some Leftist Putz blow about disarming our people, I wonder if he/she ever gave a thought to what an intense operation that would be?

    With millions of trained ex service men/women in our civilian population and more millions of skilled civilian marksmen, hunters and self defense proponents, that disarmament threat is all BLOW!

    As to the TIP of our nation's spear, we are in better shape than ever before. The term "Walk softly and carry a big stick!" is how I conducted my own life and I also see that in evidence in the Trump Administration!

    As a nation, we are coming back!

    Flash
     
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  8. robhic

    robhic I'm your huckleberry.... Platinum Member

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    He'd be running like a scalded dog without all the drag created by these losers! As you say, he's doing well in spite of their opposition. Imagine if the fetters were removed....
     
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    DWARREN123 Grumpy Old Guy

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    I think most countries leadership view America as stronger than it has been for quite some time.
    I do think they are wondering what the heck is going on with the crazy leftist folk.
    I also believe most countries trust President Trump to do as he says and that they can work with him.
     
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    It depends.

    Part of our nation is committed to becoming the next EU, through all the false doctrine they have been fed that the next evolution of mankind is towards a socialist mindset, that we will all strive to the betterment of mankind.

    The other part of our nation recognizes our strength has always been in our diversity, in working towards our self interest to benefit our family, our neighborhood, and fanning out our loyalties from there, to make all of them stronger and creating a sustainable society. And that there will be conflicts, as long as they remain academic and bloodless, helps us move towards a better culture.

    Today, the firstmentioned see the only possibility to maintaining their agenda is resorting to violence. We see this in the Antifa movement, which in reality is just another fascist doctrine, we didn't get our way, so we are going to protest, smack other folks around, until they bend to our will.

    In their mind, yes, we are weaker, because we are regressing to a more nationalist mindset.
     
  11. TheDreadnought

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    Russian meddling in our political system has always been about dividing us against ourselves. Nothing else.

    Thanks to the ******** and progressive whackos, after decades of trying their plans are now succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.
     
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    I simply don't understand the context of the question. I looked up "strategically" in terms on non military - "in a way that relates to the achievement of long-term or overall aims and interests."
    "we have to think strategically about how best to utilize our facilities"

    There are 330,000,00 people in the US. Hillary Clinton, the progressive, sat on the board of Walmart! She wasn't advocating $15 an hour, was she? Was she advocating "buy American". Warren Buffet single handedly held up the completion of the oil pipeline across the border. That pipeline had oil flowing through it on the American side down to Texas. He happened to own the train line that ran oil across the border in train tankers. I am not picking on them. I am simply illustrating that YOUR or MY definition of national strategy is not the same - and certainly not theirs.

    We have more admirals in the US Navy than ships. Don't believe for a moment that all US naval ships in WW2 were commanded by admirals. We also have the smallest military since the 1930s. Think back to 09/11/2001. You had a grand total of 14 jet fighters available in the continental US on the runway to repel bad guys. 14! And, the enhanced flight time was canceled after a few weeks because the supply line could not replenish the parts worn out. No, I don't think our military is prepared to go for even one front war.
     
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    ...I can tell you how they’d do it if they tried...
     
  14. Grumpy_old_man

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    The US is more divided than it has been since the late 1960's. Maybe worse now, since the violence and intolerance of ideological opponents then was not being egged on by "main stream" politicians like it is now. Progressives openly want us to become the next Soviet Union, while traditional American values are being held in contempt by about half the population.

    Hell yeah we're weaker than we have been in a long time.

    Grumpy
     
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    US was for eight years on its knees, it will take a while to get back up, Trump is working very hard at it.
     
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    I believe the ****ing lunatics who are getting the air time....

    are truly a vocal minority.

    I would suspect that many who wouldn't or didn't vote for Trump in the last election, would think differently now, but that isn't what we hear.

    The corporate/media/globalist overlords would never let anyone think anything of the sort, and as minds change in his, (Trumps) favor, the left will get more desperate, more shrill, more violent, and pull more **** out of their ass to throw at Trump to see what sticks.

    If one looks closely, it is apparent that their efforts have made little impact in their favor, and in many cases have worked against the malignant forces that are working against the president, and the people of this nation.
     
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    We are assuredly stronger than we were under Obama & Clinton/Kerry.

    But we are so divided as a nation. It's like two country's fighting to control itself.
     
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    And that is what I'm referring to. Its a good thing to start undoing all the PC BS that hamstrung the military under Obama. But as long as something approaching half the population believes the other half are - at best - "a basket of deplorables" we are weak as a nation.

    Grumpy
     
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    1. the popular story that a Japanese admiral said the American populace had guns is a myth.
    2. Admiral Yamamoto did study in the US. He opposed the strike on Pearl Harbor in observing that it would take just months to refloat and repair the ships. (Required disclosure - my father was on the Honolulu on December 7, 1941 in Pearl Harbor.) Yamamoto was correct, except the ships were raised or scrapped faster than he had calculated.
    3. He also said that the Japanese forces would be in retreat after a year.
    4. The war plan in the Pacific of the US was prepared prior to WW2. It was not haphazard. Moreover, the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor was I think based upon the US war game of 1929.
    5. When you really research, you learn the story of major league baseball player Moe Berg who spied for the US in Japan in 1934 and worked as a nuclear spy for the US in WW2 dealing with German scientists. He would read 7 newspapers a day on the road, not all of which were written in English.
     
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    Not sure exactly what "weaker" means or in what context, but military power has historically been a reflection of a nation's economic strength, in which case I feel pretty confident that we're clearly stronger than any potential threat, including China or even the evil Russians, with an economy the size of France or something similar. Militarily, I remain concerned. While we have more advanced (and sheer numbers of) hardware than any of the world's militaries, it's not clear to me that the folks operating it have the warrior geist to prevail if the poo hits the fan. Sure, there are pockets of excellence to be sure, like our Spec Ops folks, but the average Joe/Susie...? Convince me I'm wrong.