Is the beretta the new 1911?

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  1. byf43

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    1911/1911-A1 forever!!!!!!!!!

    Back when I was doing some work with the local sheriff's department (contract work), I was allowed to get a 92FS at their cost.
    The department was requiring the deputies to purchase their own firearms at the time, and were transitioning to the 92FS from revolvers chambered for .357, but carried issued .38 +p.

    While the 92FS does seem that the slide runs on ball bearings, it's not my favorite pistol.
    I don't think I have 250 rounds through it.
    Oh, it'll never be sold. It has some sentimental value, of that point/stage in my life.

    On the other hand, my Gold Cup NM has thousands and thousands of rounds through it. (And it'll never be sold, either!)
     
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  2. CBTENGR

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    I'm not afraid to admit that I just can't shoot certain pistols very well and a lot of it has to do with how pistols fit my small hands. I was never much of a revolver guy and mostly shoot what revolvers I do own single action.

    If the pistol does not fit a persons hands and/or is uncomfortable for them, they will not shoot that particular pistol well while they do shoot well with pistols that are comfortable and fit their hands.
     

  3. Colt38SuperDude

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    I always laugh whenever Glock bois say that 92-family is old and I have to remind them that their precious Glocks first came out in 1983. The year before the M9 was selected by the US Army. Not to mention the fact that the M9 was selected by the US Army and the Glock 17 was and is a never-has-been. Or that SEAL 6 adopted the 92 before it was even cool.

    those who like to shoot tend to have the appreciation of the superb intrinsic accuracy of the 92, plus the buttery smooth action. Sure, the grip is a bit fat but you can change out for slim grips. Unlike the Glock 17/19 2x4 that is called a grip frame.

    PS. you can get a brand new M9/92FS for $550.
     
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  4. Bradd D

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    The Glock 19 was selected by USSOCOM and their M9's sat on the shelf in the arms room.

    Glocks in use by USSOCOM:

    Pistol 9mm Mk26 Mod 0 1005-01-632-2651 = G26 Gen 3 w/night sights
    Pistol 9mm Mk26 Mod 1 1005-01-658-7261 = G26 Gen 4 w/MOS, night sights

    Pistol 9mm Mk27 Mod 0 1005-01-632-2097 = G19 Gen 3 w/night sights
    Pistol 9mm Mk27 Mod 1 1005-01-654-2796 = G19 Gen 3 w/MOS, night sights
    Pistol 9mm Mk27 Mod 2 1005-01-658-1930 = G19 Gen 4 w/night sights

    Foreign militaries seem to like Glock.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock#Users
     
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  5. billorights

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    I was on the test group that fired Glocks, Berettas, Sigs and made recommendations to our dept. when going auto from our S&W 686. We shot all the models available at the time. Of course we chose Sig but we got Berettas. Although we fired Glocks and liked them, especially the 10mm, they were not going to be picked under any circumstances. So I carried a 92 in uniform several years and also was a Range Officer. Never a problem with the Beretta. For me it was a little large but I shot it well. Shortly after that I went to plain clothes and was issued the 92 Compact. It was not difficult to carry, being in suit coats most of the time. Later we went to the 96 after a few shootings with 9mm that went sideways. Although I was still plain clothes, our brilliant leaders decided we should all have the same weapon so I was issued a full size 96. However it was not really very much difference anyway.
    Berettas are of the highest quality I believe and never a hick-up with any of them. I have wished many times that I had bought a 92 Compact Type M back then when I could have.
     
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  6. Grabbrass

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    No, the Beretta is the new Walther P38. It always has been.
     
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    Lol
     
  8. Colt38SuperDude

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    SOCOM can buy whatever they want to buy...like the Mk23 or the MARSOC M45A1. Neither of those exactly covered themselves with Glory. The M9 was the main staple for the US Army and Marine Corps conventional troops PLUS Special Forces for 30-years now. Let's see if the Austrian abortion can match that record.
     
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  9. Bradd D

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    It's an irrelevant conversation anyway. You're going to think what you want to think regardless of the facts.
     
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    The fact is that the US Military snubbed the Glock as a general service pistol.


    Ever heard of the XM17 trial?
     
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    Glock has 38 years of LE and military service worldwide and has been used by far more countries than the Beretta 92. Ignorance truly is bliss.
     
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    I failed to address the OP's question though. I would not say the Beretta is the new 1911. They are two classes of handguns, each classic in their design and use. Nothing can replace or outclass the 1911. It's not just the military use that makes it still desirable. It's the fact that it is still relevant and copied and customized after over 100 years. Is anybody producing Beretta 92's at this rate? I don't think so. Will they ever? Doubtful. Still it is a great handgun and will be around a long time.
     
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    But never good enough for the US Military, which is the elite and not some second or third world boyscout outfits.
     
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    the Turks and the South Africans are making Beretta 92 clones based on Beretta licensing and equipment. Unlike the 1911 and the Glock, which anybody can whip out with varying degrees of reliability and quality control.
     
  16. Georgiagunguy

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    I recently purchased a Wilson Beretta Centurion and really like it. I also have a few 1911’s and of course Glocks and Sig.

    All different and all have their strong points. I just like shooting them all...lol.
     
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    It will probably stick around as a nostalgia piece for those who served or had it as a duty gun.

    I kind of wish I had bought my old duty gun but I have more than enough duty size pistols in 9mm. It would be collecting dust.
     
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  18. Gray Dood

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    There are plenty of Glocks being used by the US Military, last big contract award notwithstanding.

    Just saying.

    Always liked the 92 Series, just not enough to ever retain one long term. The Centurion models with easily changed front sights, in Inox and 9mm, would be my choice. With a 20 round magazine it's a lot of firepower.
     
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    Looks great and a quality build but grip is too chunky for me and I hate the long DA/SA trigger. To each his own I guess.

    Sent from my SM-T380 using Tapatalk
     
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    The 1911's trigger and pointability is hard to beat by any current service pistol.