That my point, that reloading versus buying 9mm is not that much of a difference, perhaps $30.00 - 50.00 per 1000. I like to reload, I find it interesting, relaxing, and fun. I dont count my costs - and by the way for those who consider the cost of their time: that only works if there is somehting else you would be doing where you made that much. IE - reloading instead of playing xbox or watching TV is not 30/per hour invested. Taking the day off an hourly job to reload is.