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Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by slackercruster, Aug 31, 2020.
Is position sul considered brandishing?
if the intent is to intimidate the other person/people, or if the other person/people make a claim that they felt intimidated, then yes.
So what do you think the attorney for the other guy will claim?
A drawn gun pointed anywhere would probably be a problem out and about.
I don't know many people that teach it; it has a few issues.
well if you come up on me with a gun in that position and nothing to identify your intentions my response is based on how safe I feel at the time.
WOW.....very good question. (We practice *Sul* during Force on Force training)
The “makings of a good argument”.
Either way, I believe ’yur’ most likely gonna see some Court Time whether or not your intentions.
In today’s society,....Folks see a firearm.....they’re gonna say something to somebody if not also snap a picture,...especially during confrontation.
if someone sees a gun, or a picture of a gun, or a pop tart it is brandishing
What about a Pop-Tart that is shaped like a gun???
What if it was me and I was all like "Yo Mayhem, look at my new gat!" while holding it in the Sul position?
Would you feel safe then?
I have always taken brandishing to mean it is in your hand.
Yes, a drawn handgun is a threat, whether held in sul, or low ready, or whatever.
It depends upon the state.
Heck, some states don't even use the term " brandishing" in their laws, which is not a bad thing, since apparently it's too confusing of a word for alot of folks....
Is it chambered ,and where is your finger ?
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The position itself? ... Not more than any other position where the gun is already out of the holster and visible.
The SUL maneuver is good (if done correctly) because you have the gun under control, closely drawn into your center-mass, but still quickly deployable.
SUL is also best utilized when doing the 'Check 360' rotation (like a dancer on a pole).
Plus, SUL is consided a 'safe' gun-handling maneuver because the muzzle is kepted pointed down (with trigger finger straight/parallel with barrel), until deployment is reasonably indicated or necessary depending on what the bad guy(s) is/are doing.
If you lift your shirt and show your concealed holstered weapon, that's brandishing. You're trying to influence a situation and it's considered a "threat". Why wouldn't it be??
"790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense."
After we resolve this question, let's discuss the relative stopping power of the 9mm vs .45acp.
Because he might not be in Florida?
Maybe he's in Arizona, that has specific justification for the defensive display of a firearm.
Really, guys. The thread is an excellent example of just how important knowing your local laws is, and an example of the traps of projecting your rules on the rest of the country.
Best post yet! Short and to the point, easy enough that even a caveman can understand it.