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All true. Instead of asking only if leaving the involved springs compressed was harmful I added my thoughts about why I do that.
The wealth of experience here provides me with information and points of views I couldn't imagine on my own.
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All true. Instead of asking only if leaving the involved springs compressed was harmful I added my thoughts about why I do that.
The wealth of experience here provides me with information and points of views I couldn't imagine on my own.
Thanks again all.
Bet. As everyone is saying, it won't hurt a thing. The 3 or 4 thousand cycles is what wears it the most, then just pop in a new one.
 

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Or, if they have mastered safecracking at that early an age, hire them out as locksmiths and profit from their skills. :)
Or I could really profit by robbing a few banks with them. Who'd suspect some grandchild safe crackers? ;)
 

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I left my Gen 4 17 locked open for months. It was one of the 'fixes' people recommended for the brass ejection issue.
 
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I left my Gen 4 17 locked open for months. It was one of the 'fixes' people recommended for the brass ejection issue.
When my twin daughters first shot a new G34, one handed, the brass was dribbling out. They had a couple stove pipes, even. Once they got used to how firm to hold the gun, the brass ejected much better without doing anything else. When my brass starts going in the next lane, I'm prolly going to be replacing the RSA. I'm personally not one that needs the brass to go to the next zip code. At any rate, hand cycling probably will loosen a RSA faster than just leaving it locked open.
 

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When my twin daughters first shot a new G34, one handed, the brass was dribbling out. They had a couple stove pipes, even. Once they got used to how firm to hold the gun, the brass ejected much better without doing anything else. When my brass starts going in the next lane, I'm prolly going to be replacing the RSA. I'm personally not one that needs the brass to go to the next zip code. At any rate, hand cycling probably will loosen a RSA faster than just leaving it locked open.
Mine would dribble out as well, just roll down the frame. When it didn't, it would stovepipe or send it right between my eyes.

Besides the locking back, polished extractor, updated RSA from Glock, and hotter ammo for awhile, never gives a lick of trouble going on years now.
 
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I'm personally not one that needs the brass to go to the next zip code.
My .222 Mini-14 shoots empties out so far that people back in the waiting zone were catching them for me, (then dropping them because they were warm.)
 
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Won’t hurt the slide a bit.

The spring may experience solid state creep.
 

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+1. Springs staying compressed does little harm. Also, RSA's are consumable.

Curious though...why store it like this? Just lock it up when the kids come over. You say you kept the slide locked back with a loaded mag in. It's too easy for a kid to hit the slide stop lever and chamber a round.
^^THIS. What made you decide to store it that way in the first place?
 

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^^THIS. What made you decide to store it that way in the first place?
I believe where he had it hid, and I think the grand kids were smaller, he wanted to know a round wasn't chambered and the slide being locked back assured him of that. With his grand kids being able to rack the slide, now, he's locking it in the safe. I don't believe from what I've read of his posts the gun was in reach of the grand kids at any point. He just wanted to know by looking at the gun a round wasn't chambered.
 

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I believe where he had it hid, and I think the grand kids were smaller, he wanted to know a round wasn't chambered and the slide being locked back assured him of that. With his grand kids being able to rack the slide, now, he's locking it in the safe. I don't believe from what I've read of his posts the gun was in reach of the grand kids at any point. He just wanted to know by looking at the gun a round wasn't chambered.
Yes sir. Also in my mind is that my wife would know the condition of the chamber.
Before the grandkids we both new that the handgun was always loaded and ready to use.
 

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Any metallurgist worth their weight in molybdenum will tell you long-term storage of a very compressed spring will reduce its tension. Now whether that reduced tension is statistically significant is another thing. You won't notice it on the recoil portion of the slide cycle but may on return-to-battery, potentially problematic.

I'd be inclined to break the bank and get a new RSA. Or at least have a replacement handy. If you get that new spring, compare the tension between the two.
 

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Will do. I have a replacement RSA and a guage to compare the tensions at the start and end of slide movement.
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You won't notice it on the recoil portion of the slide cycle but may on return-to-battery, potentially problematic.
Even with 9mm, once the RSA starts to go, you may feel the slide start to bottom, harder. The bottoming is a direct result of the RSA not slowing the slide as it goes to the rear as much as it did when new/low round count. You can also tell by how far the brass goes. A new gun may pitch it just over your head where the same gun pitches it into the next lane after a few thousand rounds. Both are 'recoil' related.
 

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Will do. I have a replacement RSA and a guage to compare the tensions at the start and end of slide movement.
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My guess is if the gun hasn't been cycled, much, the diff in tension with a gauge will be insignificant. ;)
 
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