Is cable internet asynchronous?

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  1. gwalchmai

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    I've been hearing for a long time now how cable internet's big advantage was that it can upload as fast as it downloads. However, I just talked to a guy who's 3mb down and 384k up. I just checked Charter and they're advertising 3mb down and 256k up.

    Have they done this to protect the T1 industry or something?
     
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    No, to keep you from running a server.

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    A T-1 is full duplex, cable and DSL are half duplex. Even if you have the same speed (1.5 each way) you still get at least half again faster with T-1.

    T-1 also has a warranty in uptime, cable and lower-end DSL do not.

    The cable industry is aimed at home users who want to view their (porn) sites but do not send that much upstream. They do not want you to be able to run a server without paying a premium for it, so they make it painful slow for uploads. If they did not, it would be interesting to see how much bandwidth was taken by kiddies with their shoutcast, napster, and IRC servers running.

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    Yes, but didn't the cable companies tout synchronous ul/dl speeds at one time?
     
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    Not around here...

    I have DSL
    Most of my freinds have ADSL.
     
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    I do not remember it, but that doesn't mean they didn't.

    Probably stopped when they realized all the servers people were putting up in violation of use policy. Notice how the upload speeds are below 350 mostly?

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    Yep. One of my employees has a home office which he swears has cable internet with 3mb/s up and down. He was complaining that my FTP server (on our T1) is very slow taking his uploads. We did some tests and found his connection to be 3mb down and 384k up, which was what I expected. He swears otherwise, and I seem to recall such claims in the past, but I've never had cable internet.
     
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    My cable has always claimed 6 Mbps down and 768 Kbps up. Don't recall ever hearing of a same up and down claim anywhere.
     
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    Usually you have to pay extra to get "business" level of service so you can run your own servers. Even on our new fiber optic service, the fastest upload speed you can get (right now) as a residential customer is only 5mbs, thats with a 30mbs download.
     
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    Encourage him to do the speed test from dslreports and remove all doubt.
    It shows actual upload and download speeds.
     
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    Dang, how did you find out about me and my porn addiction? ~rf
     
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    I would kill for that!!!! I don't care about file servers. But it would ROCK for hosting games.
     
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    Sinister Angel I'd Hit It!

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    ;P

    Where do I get this? And how much?
     
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    A local cable company in town has two-way 3 mb service. I am in an area that has it, but I went with wireless because I like my dish for TV ;)
     
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    1. It's symmetric/asymmetric, not synchronous/asynchronous. These terms mean something altogether different.
    2. The fact that the Ethernet port on the ADSL modem operates in half-duplex mode, does not mean ADSL is half-duplex. You can split 2-wire line into full-duplex using frequency separation.
     
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    Maybe, but everyone seemed to know what I meant, and it's used pretty much universally that way.
     
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    Sinister Angel I'd Hit It!

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    Whatever rocks your boat. Think of it this way: If a group of people in a discussion repeatedly refer to Glock 19 as a revolver, will you give much credibility to the rest of their argument about technical merits of that weapon?
     
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    I think a better analogy would be completely discounting someone's opinions regarding firearms because they refer to a magazine as a clip.

    I wasn't asking about the "technical merits" of cable internet. I was asking if its upload and download speeds are generally the same.