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Installing a new trigger

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by brisk21, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. brisk21

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    So, I plan on installing a new, shorter trigger in my Springfield TRP. Is this something you would have a decent reputable gunsmith do, or would you send it to a specific 1911 smith to have done? Or would you do it yourself? I am happy with the trigger action itself, great pull weight, crisp break and reset, I just want a short trigger in there to replace the long one. I never really liked the long triggers on 1911s.
     
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    I'm having short triggers installed in two of my 1911's next week. I'm using a 1911 smith.
     

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    If you have some mechanical skills, and files, then you can do it. Patients IS the main thing when working on a 1911...it's easier to take off metal than to put it back on.

    If it doesn't drop in, you may just need to file down the trigger shoe's height.
     
  4. Quack

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    it will need to be fit and all safety checks must be performed. depending on the trigger, the trigger bow may be too long which would reduce pre-travel/take-up to an unsafe level.

    here is some basic info on fitting a trigger, but does not address what needs to be done to get the proper pre-travel/take-up if the trigger bow is longer than standard.
    http://www.blindhogg.com/gunsmith/triggers.html

    probably >90% of the triggers are made by Grieder, which seems to have longer than normal trigger bows. Wilson make's their own triggers, and i haven't seen a problem with them.
     
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    Patience helps too. :whistling:
     
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    Personally, I'd do it myself. (and have several times) It really boils down to your mechanical ability and if you know enough about 1911's to do it safely.

    Its really just a matter of fitting the trigger to the frame. Once it is able to smoothly move in an out of the frame, the next step is setting the overtravel. Here is where you need to know what you are doing. Too little and you could damage the sear over time. Too much and it is possible to have your gun go full auto. Some triggers also have adjustable pretravel that will need attention.
     
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    Noun, adjective...

    Thanks for the Enwlish lession there professor... :rofl:
     
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    I know how much you Asians have probrems with the Engrish ranguage so I ras just hepping a brother out. :tongueout:
     
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  9. brisk21

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    Yeah, sounds like a job for a gunsmith. Its just alot easier to go to the local gun store with a reputable gunsmith rather than go all the way to Detroit area for a 1911 smith. If you guys can do it, Id hope a decent gunsmith can do it as well. If it was a cheaper 1911, Id dig right in and try it out, but it is a TRP. Those come with "tuned" triggers, so Im not messing with it. I'll post pics when I have the job done.
     
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    I'm like a drunken monkey with a dremel and I can manage it,... It's not difficult at all, but as others have said, patience is the key, file a bit, fit, file a bit, fit...
    I did my Brown in about 40 mins as it needed a fair bit taking off the bottom of the shoe, though none off the top, my Springfield just needed a few stokes off the top and bottom and took about 15 mins. I use either Greider, or more recently John Harrison's smooth triggers, both are very nicely made with good sturdy bows that don't easily bend or warp. The advantage to the Greider is the ability to adjust the overtravel,( and both ways ), if needed once the gun is back together. With the Harrison, you have to dis- assemble the fire group if you need to adjust it and you can only increase it... so again, patience and care is needed....
    As long as you can capably function check to make sure it's safely working, the worse you can do is screw up a $25 part, ( which I have done, but it was worth it for the learning....)
     
  11. Jim S.

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    It really is an easy job. Buy a good quality trigger and all you have to do at most is fit it top and bottom to your frame.
    A little work on a flat surface with some fine sandpaper and in it goes.
    Many just go right in without fitting.
    It won't effect your trigger pull weight at all and adjusting the overtravel screw is easy too.
    Don't be afraid of this, it is probably the easiest thing you'll ever do to a 1911.
    Have you ever taken your gun apart?
    Time to learn and do this job yourself.
    You'll be glad you did.
     
  12. brisk21

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    Well maybe your right. Ill order the part and tear the gun apart and see how it goes. That's the best way to learn anyway, right?
     
  13. Jim S.

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    Absolutely. It is really an easy job.
    You'll have fun doing it and you will gain confidence in your ability to work on your own gun.
    You have to start somewhere.
    When you get ready to do it send me a PM and I can walk you through it step by step.
     
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    Wow, thanks bud ill definately do that!
     
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    Well, I just completely disassembled and reassembled the 1911. It really wasn't that bad with the help from youtube. Now that I know I can do that, I guess I'll order the trigger, see what happens.
     
  17. Jim S.

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    Take a look at Brownells.
    I like the Harrison Extreme Service triggers.
    Good quality and the overtravel screw is in the back of the trigger so it maintains the traditional look.
    Used them several times and always happy with them.
     
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    I ordered the STI short curve nylon trigger. I wanted that one specifically. It worries me though, because the trigger bow looks a bit different in the photo than a regular trigger bow. It has cuts in it as well as tabs towards the rear. Hopefully it will work. If not, I'll just get a regular short trigger.
     
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    the STI trigger bow is thinner than the regular bow, therefore those tabs are there to give it the regular thickness to the frame's rail. Those cut tabs, near the shoe, are there to set pre-travel distance.