Innocent man being interviewed for a B&E.

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  1. Sechott

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    Starts around the 5 minute mark. At which point in the interview should the cop have known, they’ve nabbed the wrong guy? Yet decided to charge him anyway.
    View: https://youtu.be/CUJKaPu7oMQ
     
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    You interview or interrogate for as long as they will talk to you , he’s there by consent .


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    As to the point I saw no indicators that jumped out that he was deceptive , the detectives should have investigated the alibis that is their job.


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    Even if innocent the only words coming out of my mouth would be "Am I free to go?" and "I'd like to call my attorney.".
     
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    Strange, he was very calm. Maybe it is a Canadian thing.

    How did this get posted up, and how did it turn out?
     
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    I saw nothing in the interview to prove his guilt or innocence. His calm demeanor and reasonableness definitely fit him being innocent, but there’s no automatic “yes” or “no” as to if he is, from this short video.

    You almost never know, during an interview, if what they say is true. Depending on the case, they either sit there while you investigate their story or you send them home and prove what they said, to the extent possible.
     
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    As an investigating officer, this is the worst thing you can do, for you and the case. Waiting for an attorney can take days. Meanwhile, the investigation focuses more on you, instead of the actual culprit, since it is uncommon for innocent people to only speak with their attorney present. Generally, the people who are only willing to talk with an attorney present are guilty of something, if not the crime they are being asked about. This other crime tends to come out while extra attention is given to the wrong person, the same person who could have kept the investigation moving forward and ultimately, away from themselves.
     
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    Why is it strange he is calm? This is three hours after the arrest. Unless he was very high, after three hours most people are calm and just want resolution.
     
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    If I'm innocent and don't know anything about the actual suspect I'm not only unable to assist you but all I can do is make things worse for myself. If I can point you towards evidence or a suspect I will otherwise you are going to have to wait for my council.
     
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    I think he was arrested in Delaware, he talks about property he also owns in Canada. Reading the comments he was awarded a $48,000 settlement.
     
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    THIS
     
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    My experience is around corporate internal investigations. Innocent people continue to be insistent that they are innocent, often becoming more insistent. They get really irritated they are accused and their reputation being tarnished. Inexperienced people that have done it, get weaker or vague in their denials, or claiming they had no idea that anything they had done was wrong, or they were going to put it back. Experienced people know the game. I never met one of those in my circle. Ours were more on the fraud and kickback side, not on the B&E side.
     
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    My confusion was the Hamilton Police video and Toronto which are near each other, and the accents. Delaware surprises me.
     
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    I never heard Delaware come up.

    EDIT - Listened again, Delaware is the street name I believe.
     
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    Thanks, probably a Canadian case then.
     
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    Yeah totally, this appears based on the what they say to take place in Hamilton, Ontario.
     
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    I don't see how you would know you have the wrong guy from the guy saying he didn't do it.

    Did you learn about law from this judge?

    View: https://youtu.be/WU95F01IJsc

    When I Google it, I see people saying "witnesses said the suspect was white and Michael is black.' That leaves me shaking my head at the utter stupidity and wondering if they have looked at the guy.
     
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    How about “I’m innocent.”, “Am I free to go?” And “I’d like to call my attorney.”?

    If I’m sitting in that room I don’t give a rats ass about the real culprit. I care about my ass. We probably walk by 100 uncaught felons every day.
     
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