Initial range report on IWI Masada ORP

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  1. grecco

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    Thanks for the write up.
     
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    Great write up. Appreciate the work. You mentioned the CZ Phantom and I still kick myself for not picking one of those up years ago. Thanks again !!


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  3. michael_b

    michael_b Elementary, my dear Watson.

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    Congrats! Awesome write up.

    The Steoger is very inexpensive and feels a bit cheap IMO.
     
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  4. VIS07

    VIS07 Never, never, never give up.

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    Thanks for the write up. Liked reading your personal hand written shooting notes. Very cool. I might end up with one of these.
     
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  5. fnfalman

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    CZ USA brought it back.
     
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    I picked up a copy last Thursday, and took it out Saturday. If I were to produce a comprehensive write-up, I think I would have hit on all of the same points seen here. I too found it to be a very enjoyable shooter, and also found, for a stock striker (sans a couple of notable exceptions at FAR higher price points) that the trigger feel and smoothness really make this a leader in the overwhelmingly diverse market segment it has been released into.

    I really think that comparing it to its contemporaries based just on features alone this pistol may seem relatively unremarkable in many ways - it seems to be taking lessons learned from several platforms and combining them (a little bit of Sig with the chassis design, a little bit of Walther for the trigger, some FN/CZ hybrid small parts design for the striker). Any way about it, its a fine shooter and has great features - I found inserting mags to be challenging at first...but a little practice resolved that shooter issue.

    Where this pistol clearly stands apart is value. At the $480 MSRP (I paid $455 OTD) there isn't much out there that presents as many features that are actually functional and well-executed. I have not played with the optics cut/plates yet, but it is a good design and is representative of others that are popular. Slide cuts fore and aft are nice and grippy, interchangeable backstraps are well executed, and the trigger guard undercut allows one to really get up under what otherwise would be a higher bore-axis than a Glock (design-wise its more like a Sig, but I have found without frame mods I can't get as far up on a P320 as the Masada).

    So perhaps if one has lots of other plastic-fantastics this may seem like a pass...but for folks new to pistols or strikers, this presents a great way to minimize risks and have a solid learning platform in duty-size. I for one will be keeping mine. I love my Tavor SAR - they will pair nicely together!
     
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    Good report fn.


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    They are good pistols, in my opinion based on initial thoughts.
     
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    Had to tacticalize mine a bit with the addition of the Deltapoint Pro and TLR-1.
     
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    The external styling is very similar. The guts are quite different.
     
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    Zeroed in the Deltapoint Pro today. Note to self: do not use targets with red bullseyes to zero your red dot with. One would think i’d Learned by now. Also the left frozen Shoulder wasn’t helpful at all. If anything it’s a detriment for not being able to apply enough pressure to hold the gun steady.

    It’s been too long since I played with my two other red dot equipped pistols. I think I’ll dedicate more time with this one.

    FYI, Night Fision makes a set of SIG sights that will fit the Masada. It uses No. 6 front, No. 8 rear and be sure to select silencer height for Co-witness. Or if Co-witness is not wanted then just leave the stock sights as is. I’ll buy a set of sights next.

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    Second outing with the Masada after the Deltapoint Pro’s initial zero outing. Ammo this time was 100-rounds of Fiocchi 115-grains FMJ.

    I wanted to make sure that the gun would work with generic 115-grains load while having both the red dot and tactical light mounted onto it. I especially wanted to see if the gun would function with all these installed doodads while shooting one handed in either string or weak side.

    The gun still has the medium backstrap on from the factory and while I might like the small insert better, I am hesitant to change the medium size out because right now the point ability is spot on for both two-hands and strong hand shootings.

    Weak side shooting sucks badly. I’ve shot the Masada weak armed before and it was fine. However with red dot mounted, weak arm shooting was terrible. I couldn’t find the dot most of the time. My bum left shoulder doesn’t help either. The gun was shaking like a leaf in my left hand.
     
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    The longer trigger reset is more noticeable now that I’m getting used to the gun. As is, it won’t be competitive in a gun game. Non-issue for combat/self-defense.

    Double taps were controllable but more than that, muzzle flip really comes into play. I’m sure that my bum left shoulder doesn’t help but I do have the TLR-1 mounted and that’s extra weight up front. Nonetheless much more than three rounds burst and bullets start spraying. Is that an issue? Not to me. I don’t plan on blazing away/mag dumping even at close range self defense shooting.

    In conclusion it’s not a superior service pistol but plenty good enough, especially for the price. Also, red dot is awesome.

    I had an RMR and an old Deltapoint mounted in my FNX45 Tactical and SW M&P CORE Pro a few years back but I never really played with them. It was as more for grins and giggles. I’m going to shoot the Masada ORP more and truly immerse myself with pistol red dot shooting.



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    Are the sights made of metal or plastic ?
     
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    This is an itch I've been scratching

    Have you tried other magazines in this yet to see if work?
     
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    This is an itch I've been scratching

    Have you tried other magazines in this yet to see if work?