In the News: Lebonon, The Rest of The Story

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  1. czsmithGT

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    Yes it will.

    If there is sufficient quantity of ammonium nitrate, it can generate enough heat to catch fire and keep the fire going, without the need for an external catalyst such as a flame.

    As it burns, ammonium nitrate goes through chemical changes that lead to the production of oxygen, precisely what a fire needs to keep going and get bigger. As it heats up the chemical can fuse together, creating a seal or plug.

    The space behind the plug keeps on being heated and gases form.

    Hot gas expands, but, behind the plug, it has nowhere to go. Eventually, the gas will break through the seal and the force of that will trigger an explosion.
     
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  2. Gauss Rifle

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    So let me get this straight. Four-five years ago, enough explosives to rival a small nuclear warhead were pulled into port. It was supposed to be disposed of, since:
    1) It's a massive safety hazard and security risk.
    2) It's in a populated area.
    3) Explosive compounds deteriorate; becoming more volatile over time.

    ...and they "never got around to it"?

    Sounds legit. Only a government could be that incompetent.

    On the other hand, it would make a big juicy target for Lebonon's enemies or a terrorist group, if word ever got out about it. It's the Middle East; I can guarantee that someone would be ok with setting something that powerful off around civilians.

    No $h!t. :cool:

    I wouldn't be surprised if their entire government body was was removed from power, then either imprisoned or executed.
     

  3. czsmithGT

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    Nope
     
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  4. czsmithGT

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    Every government on earth, including ours, is run by morons.
     
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  5. Geko45

    Geko45 Smartass Pilot CLM

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    That's how they use it in mining, but yes, any explosive will spontaneously detonate if the conditions are extreme enough.

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  6. catman71

    catman71 Spewer of TROOF

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    seems like a flaw to keep your ammonium nitrate next to your fireworks. But i did not go to school fir chemistry or fire prevention, so take my advice accordingly
     
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  7. Gauss Rifle

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    Like I said; "ONLY a government could be that incompetent."
     
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  8. fastbolt

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    So, incompetence and improper storage and handling of a dangerous material in a facility under the control of a terror organization?

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/beirut-blast-hezbollah-port-under-scrutiny


    View: https://youtu.be/YIP2LQ9q4U4
     
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  9. Westexas

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    Yes it is. It’s actually a very stable explosive. It has a relatively low brisance (shattering ability). The shock wave is a few thousand feet per second. It’s used for earth moving.

    At the other end of the scale is PETN which has a very high brisance. The shock wave is around 23,000 FPS. It’s used in
    DET cord.
     
  10. Westexas

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    PETN will do the job very nicely.
     
  11. MrGlock21

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  12. jim goose

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    No bomb ever goes to waste in Beriut.

    It was written.
     
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  13. Westexas

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    In case anyone is interested, I found out as a teenager that mixing potassium chlorate and red phosphorus together is a bad idea. Especially letting it sit in glass containers for an extended period of time. That’s a really bad idea.
     
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  14. willie_pete

    willie_pete NRA Life Member

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    Did you survive ? If so, you were lucky.
     
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    Heh...it's called Armstrong's Mixture...they used it in those old cap guns back in the day.
     
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    So would this ammonium nitrate be a legitimate “Ship High In Transit” material?
     
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    Reminds me of my days making ammonium triiodide in college to bedevil the NROTC detachment.

    ;)
     
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    willie_pete NRA Life Member

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    No need. It really doesn’t off gas or do anything strange unless it gets contaminated.
     
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    I remember some plant, many years ago, that was out in the desert Southwest. I think I remember watching a BLEVE go in hazmat class one.
     
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  20. czsmithGT

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