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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by HKMark23, Sep 22, 2004.
.....for familly travel, what would you buy?
And I'm talking a new aircraft.
Probably a Cessna T182 with the Garmin G1000 glass panel. At least 80% of my flights are with just me, or with one passenger. It would be pretty rare to fill all seats. With the leftover money, I'd get a Cubcrafters Top Cub and have the budget to operate and insure both.
Something that goes 200kts and is certified into known icing.
300 Ultralights. ;f
1/8th fractional ownership in a Sikorsky S-76 (deluxe/executive)
I've probably got to work the other 7/8ths of the time anyway...
I'd like a Cessna Caravan..... but I see they go for $1.6 M.
A million doesn't go as far as it used to, does it......
Used Caravan. It will haul it all, haul it high and relatively fast, roomy and good pattern manners.
relatively fast? compared to what, a 152?
caravans are not very fast, they'll haul, but;
"Grand Caravan delivers performance, climbing at more than 975 fpm, and cruising at 210 mph while operating so efficiently it keeps your airline or cargo business profitable. "
I wouldn't mind flying a caravan, but I wouldn't be using it to make long trips to get from point A to point B....
What stinks about the $1 million and under price range is that pretty much everything is a turbo-charged piston, which means rebuild and overhaul prices can be double that of cheaper non-turbo pistons. It's where you are stretching piston engines to their limit.
That said, a nice Baron would be fun. Twin engine planes aren't terribly efficiant due to way more drag (instead of one major source of drag on a single, you got 2 props, 2 nacelles, and 1 fuselage on a twin, which means you need way more HP to make the same speed). The thing is though that they are fairly roomy, and you can actually take some friends (unlike most others where you have to choose your two favorite friends and make the other one drive if you want to have max range ) Building twin time only helps professional pilots anyway, so that would be a bonus.
i'd try to find a de-militarized OV-10 Bronco man those little planes were cool
Will the Boomerang come in under a mil?
How much will one of these cost?
Dial up warning, large pic.
That would be a Cirrus SR22. About $340K loaded. That would actually be my choice.
Actually if you surf some numbers on the net you'll see that the Caravan is about as fast as the Barron; the caravan just has to go higher to get it. But since its a turboprop it can go higher.
I would get the 6 seater eclipse jet. New for 1M and is more efficient than a twin.
It's a 3-4 seater with full fuel and max range
We looked at them in a coperate aviation class as a possible aircraft to use, but there aren't many advantages with it. You can either go 1000 miles or carry 6 people, not both. It also doesn't go very fast or very high relative to just about every other biz-jet.
It's not a bad aircraft, but I think many people are looking at it and seeing the price and not realizing that it doesn't have a lot of flexibility or capability. A single engine turboprop as is made by several makers would make more sense most of the time. That or something like a King Air.
I want to see Eclipse succeed, but for many businesses the capability is not great (especially in terms of moving people).
I'm with you on this one, I know it isn't new, but it was the first thing that I thought of. I have seen old WW2 pics where they were loading jeeps in those things, and I was thinking to my self "Self, I wonder if you could load.. say a VW beetle in one of those, so you could fly somewhere with the wife and kids, then have ground transport when you get there"
It is a nice thought.
Of course, nothing, and I mean NOTHING would ever compare to that ME262 that is currently being built.
Nothing would compare with "cessna 123, traffic is a ME262 on high left downwind"
I've been thinking about this:
Seen it at OSH and took a demo flight there a few years ago in the IO-720 version and was quite impressed!
The certified turbine model comes in about $750k and the kit is about half that.
And the #'s are compairable to a Caravan with the exception of short/rough field performance which is where the Sherpa blows away the Caravan.
The fact that the T/O roll is less than 500' and landing is less than 400'......AT GROSS WEIGHT is pretty cool. And at 3,500# with 10 knots all the numbers are under 100' is even better.