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If we're not careful this will be the US soon

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by i300zxtt, Sep 15, 2004.

  1. i300zxtt

    i300zxtt

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  2. epsylum

    epsylum Boolit Hoze

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    I thought all guns were banned in the UK, anyways? The scary part is the people are doing it to themselves (polls over there show the people are very socialistic in the UK). I'm sure the BBC has a lot to do with the downfall of thier society (yes I see the UK as collapsing democracy, nearing it's end).

    Thank god we are not all shoved onto a tiny island like them. The distance between people helps keep this group-thought process (where people are forced to be close to each other all wind-up thinking alike, it's been scientifically documented) and keeps us a very diverse country in ideals and moral beliefs (again the melting pot at work).

    I feel people were never intended to live in large masses (like large cities). Our minds can't handle being bombarded with lots ideas all at once. We just pick what we think (or were told to think) is right and then block EVERYTHING else out, just to stay sane.

    The most intellectually honest (and ideallogically open) people I have ever met, were from rural areas. Since they haven't been beaten into thinking one way or another, they were allowed to make thier own conclusions about things.

    What I'm getting at is, among other things one of the reasons we have yet to go completely down the path of other socialistic European countrues, is the physical size of our country and how spread out we are.

    This is a big reason why I feel the electoral college needs to be changed to a system similar to that of the state representatives. Only a set number of votes per state, depending on who the people of that region of the state voted for. It would allow every state to be just as powerful as the others, instead of being ran by the people of Kalifornia and NY (namely LA and NYC).
    Sorry,
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  3. noway

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    {I thought all guns were banned in the UK, anyways?}

    Still legal to own certain long guns in England ( shotgun, blackpowder,etc.....

    I think the ban on fox hunting with dogs ( which btw is what they are banning ) might be border line on inhumane, in the fact that 10 -to-20 dogs are chasing down one fox so that a few hunters can shoot at it.

    Trust me if we would start something like that up here (usa) it would quickly be banned.


    Times a changing and world views on what once was the norm is no longer the same.
     
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    Lone Wolff Tire World...

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    Not to be too sarcastic, but....when was the UK ever truly a "democracy"?

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    FullClip NRA Benefactor CLM

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    The Bambi-ists are already starting to try and chip away at hunting right here in the USA. In Maine there is a state referendum this fall about outlawing bear hunting over bait or with dogs as some think it's "not humane or sporting". While bear hunting of any kind isn't my idea of fun, I'm fighting against the regulation as it will lead to further regulations imposed by PETA and such folks.
    If some of you pose that fox hunting with dogs isn't sporting, then can't a similar thing be said for hunting bear with dogs? In some parts of the country dogs can be used for deer hunting. For me it's a very similar idea as gun control. When we give in an inch, they'll end up wanting a mile.
    If any regulations are needed on hunting, there is already a system in place on a state to state and even federal basis that uses wildlife population and substainablity as a guideline on any restrictions. It may not be perfect, but it's better than having hunting regulations dicated by a possibly well meaning, but ill informed group of bleeding hearts.
     
  6. Dogbite

    Dogbite DNT TREAD ON ME

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    This type of ban is a baby step towards the end--no hunting period.If you treasure hunting anything,any way--you should fight this sort of thing whenever it raises its ugly head!!!!First it will be bears,then something else--its the death of a thousand cuts for the hunter!!
     
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    I agree. In one instance I saw on video the dogs tore the fox apart, there was nothing left. The "hunters" never got a chance to shoot. I'm a hunter and will fight to protect are rights to the end, but that is ignorant. Nothing sporting or ethical about it IMO.
     
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    (I know I will get flamed for this but ....)

    Anybody that thinks these guys are hunters and what they are doing is hunting, need to get dictionary. What they are doing is nothing more than a tradition that's been passed down from centuries.

    Their sport is no different then me buy a spalding racquet and joining the country club and playing a game or 2 with the guys all deck'd out in my sporting attire and nike foot gear. This act don't neccessary make me a tennis player.

    (okay, now I have my flame-retarded suit on.....)
     
  9. TheEggman

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    No flames, you are correct!

    The DOGS are doing the hunting, the humans just use it as an excuse to go riding.

    If it's truly 'hunting' in the traditional sense, then the Fox should be dressed out, baked, boiled, grilled or broiled and the head mounted on the wall. They should be forced to eat what they hunt!

    But what do you expect from the <I>Formerly</I> Great Britain?
     
  10. FullClip

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    Uh-Oh???;P

    Got any good receipies for coyote, fox, groundhog or crow???;g ;g ;g

    The fox is considered a varmint, not really table fare in any place (well maybe someplaces in Asia ;g )
     
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    Not really. Where I'm from folks hunt coyotes with greyhounds. Even the government hunters.

    Unfortunately with the US becoming full of bunny hugging idiots. (They're even showing up on gun boards on hunting forums.) I'm sure that banning is on the horizon.