If we survive this election with our county.....

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by lawandorder, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. Dave Lively

    Dave Lively

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    The real money is when they leave congress and become lobbyists.

    And term limits would be the best thing that ever happened to lobbyists. Once someone is in office for a while they are less dependent on lobbyists than someone running the first time. Someone running for office the first time has no name recognition, fundraising base or experience in how to win elections. Lobbyists can help with all of that when they support a candidate that agrees with their positions. While term limits would mean they could ignore the people that helped them win their last election once in office it also means lobbyists would have more influence in open seats. Overall term limits would increase the power of lobbyists, not decrease it.

    One argument I used the hear from my pro term limit co-workers that has not been brought up here is that with term limits congress would be completely free to do what they thought was the right thing to do with no consequences.

    Which is true but not a good thing.

    How are you guys going to feel when that ultra conservative, pro 2A, law and order, candidate you voted in decides to vote for "common sense legislation to ban weapons of war" and legislation restricting the police because he feels it "is the right thing to do"? What are you going to do about it? Vote him out of the office he has to leave anyways due to term limits? He is going to be much more concerned about how his positions will look on his resume than what you think.
     
  2. ModGlock17

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    That idea had been working so well that millions of people,
    from everywhere on this globe,
    Risked their lives to be here. It's part of the American dream.

    And those who couldn't,
    Want to destroy,
    Turning this land to be wasted.

    But that's exactly the conflict. If you'd destroy the American dream, then people from their countries would have nowhere to go. They'd have to stay put.
    And these freedom rebels would have not an example to change their countries to.
    So it'd be easier for countries and their power to control their people, WITHOUT a powerful America,
    Thus the underlying theme, of a Globalist ideal.
     

  3. thewitt

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    That used to be the case, but no longer.

    Pelosi is worth what? $250 million?
    Feinstein $70 million?

    They don't wait to leave any more.

    Presidents generally do, because they can then make $500,000 30 minutes speeches to get paid back for things they did for other countries... and of course "we" think there is nothing wrong with that.

    Clinton net worth is upwards of $150 million...

    One former Secretary of State made millions through a so-called charity foundation while serving in office...
     
  4. Scotsman

    Scotsman Unauthorized Green Beans

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    "...While our Country remains untainted with the Principles and manners, which are now producing desolation in so many Parts of the World: while she continues Sincere and incapable of insidious and impious Policy: We shall have the Strongest Reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned Us by Providence. But should the People of America, once become capable of that deep <[. . .]> simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations, which assumes the Language of Justice and moderation while it is practicing Iniquity and Extravagance; and displays in the most captivating manner the charming Pictures of Candour frankness & sincerity while it is rioting in rapine and Insolence: this Country will be the most miserable Habitation in the World. Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by <[. . .]> morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition <and> Revenge or Galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

    As I've heard many times on this board, "You can't legislate morality." There is no law, executive order, policy or suggestion made by men that could ever stop the corruption we see in government and society as a whole. The problem is within every person, and only a change there will give results. The politicians are only a reflection of the evil within the citizens that voted for them, a symptom of the fallen nature of man.

    Jeremiah 17:9 - The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

    The Bible has given us all the answers as to the "Why" concerning this issue, and it has given us all the answers on how to fix it.
     
  5. Vic777

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    Gotta have voter ID, and only citizens can vote. January 20 2021 Americabecomes Iran. Your children will be slaves!
     
  6. ModGlock17

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    Exactly.

    Why thinking about new voting laws when you can't even enforce laws already in the books ??

    The biggest issue in this is each state is doing its own implementation and decides which part of the federal laws it wants to keep.