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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Terry G, Oct 16, 2019.
Did you like Dred Scott? Agree they got that wrong. j/s
What else do you call the killing of a human that has neither been sentenced to death by a judge after being found guilty of a capital crime, nor used or attempted to use deadly force against another?
No matter what label one gives the mass of tissue that is formed upon the union of a sperm and egg - science dictates that mass to be a separate and unique individual. It has its own DNA and while dependent upon the mother for nourishment and protection during this particular stage of life, is no less human than you or I.
That's science. Unarguable and with no mention of morals, ethics, or religion. While many pretend that this clump of cells is no different than a boil which is lanced, the fact remains that it is a unique individual that has its own DNA. It is a member of Homo sapiens and no amount of mental gymnastics can change those facts.
Somewhere along the way, our society became persuaded differently and that this clump of cells was nothing more than that...a clump of meaningless cells that stood in the way of women being able to do whatever they wanted without consequence in the bedroom. I suppose jealousy that men could deposit their seed at will, without regard for what happened unless the law provided relief might have had something to do with that decision....
Whatever the reason, religion and morality aside, there is literally no way to debate that abortion means the death of a unique individual human being. That's science.
If you’re going to argue they got it wrong, why then did they uphold the finding that women have the right to choose?
I understand how the law sees it but that wasn’t the question. Not a flaw, simply your defection. You still haven’t addressed the relativism of law.
Hey, forget it. Your point is that Roe v. Wade is settled law. I get that. I understand that our society has accepted that abortion is not murder. I do not agree but that does not change the law. That does not mean the law is correct, but it is the law.
That is emotion.
And that’s why your argument was flawed from the onset.
I don’t believe you are that dense. To spell it out, they have gotten it wrong many times. Jeesh!
Good luck with that argument.
Not emotion. Again, you are deflecting.
So you believe SCOTUS has never gotten it wrong? Good luck with that! LOL!
I don’t believe I said that ether.
However that both decisions upheld it as the woman’s right, with almost all new justices does not lend credibility to your position.
But it really doesn’t matter. I understand you will still object, and it will still not be murder, and still be legal. So by all means continue to make your emotionally driven, and inherently flawed argument.
Anybody can see you deflected the point. Either the SCOTUS has always been right or they haven’t. Law is fluid. I have never deflected from what the law of the land is.
You have never addressed the issue regarding that law is a construct and that societies has adopted bad constructs.
you tried, but some will never change their thinking...
It's interesting how so many who have never died and who have never seen what lies beyond this life are willing to bet their mortal life on the delusion that there is a creator, despite the complete lack of evidence.
Do you also advocate execution for working on the Sabbath?
I believe the courts in this country at one time deemed it legal to burn women who were suspected of being witches. That did not make it right, and neither is killing an unborn baby.
I know someone who had three. All for birth control reasons. She's is highly educated and as whacked as anyone I've ever known. IMO, it messed up her mind.
We need to get back to a time when abortion was not an acceptable solution.
Women who get abortions when they are young without good judgement must be haunted by what they did later in life.
Imagine having a family and thinking about those missing because of your actions. Or maybe not having any children at all while thinking about the ones you killed.
Those 60 million aborted Americans since Roe versus Wade not including their children are a reason we have open borders and a foreign invasion. Perhaps that is our punishment.
The way our society is today no one can say God is on our side.
When was this exactly?
Before Roe versus Wade for starters. Turn the clock back to say 1950.
I should not have posted in this thread as this issue is not a concern to me.
I do think long term it has had a bad effect on our society. There is always a cost to our actions; our taking the easy way out.
I also think women are victims in this abortion issue (and I hate to use the word victim). They are sold an easy solution that they later may regret. It all boils down to our "if it feels good do it society". I used to believe that but I now see the cost.
They have earned the worst name I can think of......Liberal