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IDPA Match Costs

  1. At the gun range I belong to I’ve volunteered and been tasked with setting up club tactical shoots. It’s just like IDPA but not affiliated. I’ve attended many IDPA matches in multiple places. I’ve never run one. The club needs to know how much to budget for this seasons shoots and I’m not quite sure what a match needs as far as resources and quantity. I’ve done an inventory and we are good for a match or two with the amount of targets and pasters, but then we’ll be out. I know spray paint, barriers, and props add extra. So, if anyone here is familiar with running a similar shoot and willing to give some advice on logistics and costs I’d appreciate it. Thanks!
     
  2. You'll need target stands, a few plastic barrels, barricades and spray paint. As for targets and pasters, it depends on how many stages you'll run and how many targets/shots per stage. If you're going to adhere to IDPA standards, you'll use less targets than, say, a USPSA shoot and round count will be less. My club used to be IDPA affiliated and our matches probably averaged about 60 rounds. We switched to USPSA and our last match was almost 150 rounds....that is if you didn't miss anything.

    If you want to get really fancy, there are all kinds of specialty targets available. My club has floppers, swingers, Texas Stars in 2 variations, and the good old poppers, but the cost of these does add up if you buy them. You'll also need a supply of lathing strips for the uprights to attach the targets to. It all depends on how far you want to go. The sky is the limit.
     
  3. I’ve MD’d at two startup IDPA clubs.

    Usual price at clubs in my area is $15, with a $5 discount if you’re an IDPA or club member, or if you help set up. So minimum price is $10. Most matches here have two squads of 12, so the revenue from each match is nominally $200 (MDs shoot free). We usually have a quick warmup stage, and then 4 18-round stages. We’ll use about 40 targets per match, and save non-threats, as there usually aren’t many holes in them. I figure about $1 per target (tape and paint cost included), so you’ll realize roughly $150/match profit. Over time, you can use this to buy props.

    The round and square steel targets that sit on a rod that you drive into the ground are a cheap way to have a few non-cardboard shots until you have enough saved to buy swingers, pop-ups, etc.

    Use Practiscore for sign-up and scores. The software is free, and it will make your life much easier.

    I’ve MD’d Tier 1 matches for some time now. I’d be happy share my experience with you. If you want to discuss, PM me, and I’ll send you my phone no.
     
  4. I ran the Apply Valley IDPA from March 98 to June 2005, put on 2 State matches and a Regional match. The club already had a good supply of props from the previous USPSA days. Other than sticks and stands and targets and tape, you'll also need timers. Practiscore has made things super easy these days. But the biggest thing is getting a dedicated crew to setup and tear down stages, training up your RO's. And don't forget event liability insurance to protect the RO's, club officers and land owners.
     
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  6. double tap
     
  7. Spartan, how many bays do you have available and how many stages do you intend to run?
     
  8. I have 4 bays available, technically 5. The first shoot I was going to do a qualifier with a side match.
     
  9. I would not do a qualifier "classifier" if it's not an IDPA match. Since it's club level, it's your rules. Setup 4 fast and fun stages, not to tricky, and see how the local crowd likes it.
     
  10. Small local matches should be high on entertainment and not so technical.
     
  11. My first suggestion would be to affiliate with one of the major orgs (USPSA or IDPA)

    Nothing worse than going to "Bob's Tactical Shoot" and dealing with the rules he made up
     
  12. Most of the time, Bob thinks IDPA RoE is too choreographed and USPSA scoring is too complicated, so you get freestyle shooting with time plus scoring. That is manageable.
    It is when Bob gets delusions of tacticality and starts making up RoE that it throws shooters accustomed to standard procedures off their game.

    I have one coming up this weekend that I will probably attend even though I have no idea whose shooting rules will apply; not to mention some strange gun divisions.
     
  13. I suppose it depends on your market. Here I can shoot USPSA or IDPA multiple times each weekend, so Bob's match has no interest to me, because I want a well defined ruleset when I show up somewhere. If there was nothing else going on for weeks at a time maybe I'd venture out to an "outlaw" match but in most cases, no thanks.
     
  14. Tablets for using Pratiscore scoring unless your gonna do paper and tabulate it after.
    A WI FI router to sync the tablets.
     
  15. Practiscore on a tablet is great, you only have to handle the numbers once and results are usually up the same day; often by the time I get home.
    But the tablet can be hard to read in the sun and an error is tedious to correct... if you notice it at all.
     
  16. That's good advice and we have decided to follow it. We are trying to build a club so getting people to attend and keep coming is important.
     
  17. Unfortunately we are a very small and rural club. I'm the only IDPA member and I travel 2 1/2 hours to get to an affiliated club once a month. We are using the IDPA rulebook as our rules. I want the club to become affiliated, but right now we are in such an infancy that I don't see it this year.
     
  18. My small club shoots regulation USPSA but is not affiliated. I think the guy running it does not want the extra administrative work.

    When we started IDPA I took a survey and most of the members said they would not attend an event they had to pay dues to another outfit for. So we shot IDPA "style" for a good while until the present MD is smarter than Bill Wilson so now we have Tom's Tactical.
     
  19. Don't knock off USPSA or IDPA or Steel Challenge club rules. Regulation is an affiliated club with a number listed at USPSA.org or IDPA.com or SCSA.com. Either join or call it Jim's Practical Pistol match.
     
  20. While you don't ever have to join either the USPSA or SCSA to compete (course you will never shoot a Level 2 match or be classified), IDPA relies completely on membership dues.
     
  21. I am an idpa CSO, SOI, shot & worked Nats, Worlds, a bunch of state matches. I AMD & CSO at my local club but decided to start my own to control match quality.
    Props needed are walls & barrels. You can put on a good match with little else to start. Do paper scoring to start, cheaper than buying pads. You need targets, tape, target stands.
    The key to a good match are good stages, I can't emphasise that enough. Nothing worse than showing up to shoot a match with crap stages, unless you just want to pull the trigger. Imo it requires quite a bit of creative thinking or attending good sanctioned matches to design good stages. You can of course go on line & find 100s to adapt to your range.
    If the 4 bays are wide enough or deep enough, you can set up 2 stages in one bay. If not, 4 main stages with a single target drill in each bay as a starter, gives you 5. Add a 1-2 target stage at the end in each bay for 6 stages. Lots of ways to fit more shooting into,a small range.
    If you want to be a legal idpa club, you need yo go online & reg & pay a fee. Try it out first, then decide if you want affiliation. You'll need certified SO at some point. You should download the rules & be familiar. Nothing irritates good shooters like stages that dont follow the basic rules. Good SO staff make any match run better. Have fun, be safe.
     
  22. What xtra work? Other than registering with idpa as a club, you dont have to do much. Run a classifier annually, thats it. I think most people dont want to follow rules so they have idpa style shooting. Which is fine btw, but its not like being an idpa member is like being a peta member. I know the rules say you must be a member to shoot at club matches but most clubs dont enforce it strongly for local tier 1. I have two prices for my match, idpa & non. $5-$10 diff is incentive to join idpa. Shoot 4-8 matches a year & you paid your dues.
     
  23. If only I could get my chapter of The Well Armed Woman to read the rules before competing. Some began with GSSF nearly a year ago, then IDPA about 4 months ago, now SCSA within the last month. No one seems interested in reading and understanding the nitty-gritty of any of the rules prior to shooting, so guessing Bob or Jim's Wild West Tacticool Shoot would be fine for them. Most are happy with mistakes and OJT. I need structure to get better... but I'm a former IDPA SO.
     
  24. I thought not reading instruction was a guy thing?:cheers:
    As a SO you know this but we say you learn idpa one P at a time. We do like a 10min brief for new shooters going over range commands & basic penalty no-no. They still get a lot of Ps, timer goes buzz & their brain shuts off, but if they dont DQ, its a win.
     
  25. I thought so, too. Who knew?

    I went to this club's IDPA match once at this range with the ladies to see if I could offer any inside help to get them started down the right path. I don't shoot IDPA any more since I injured my foot - SCSA and GSSF is more my speed now. Out of 6 or so ladies, shooting for 4 months, there has been one DQ about 3 months ago. They are improving... but I tend to be more competitive and they like having fun. I tell them that fun is for losers... I'm out for blood! :D Good cheap entertainment for $15, though - fun or blood!

    They are doing okay at avoiding pros and pens, but their raw times and especially PDs are killing them. 60-75 PD tonight. One of the gals has been fairly consistent with 4-stage finals over 300 each week. (I don't go any longer, I just pick up the after-action on PractiScore.)