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I think the NFA is Unconstitutional

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Kingarthurhk, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. Ruggles

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    Oh no doubt, these types of things are becoming much more main stream than before. I do not think that we will see a acceptance of FA firearms losing any restrictions though. Barrel length is much more likely to be unrestricted IMO.
     
  2. Ruggles

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    I did not go there because I did not have too. It is good to see that you (like me) draw a line on what the 2nd A covers. Although our lines as to what is and is not covered may differ we both appear to have them :wavey:

    And stop the black and white labeling of people already it is immature and silly. Just because I support some regulations on firearms does not mean I am a "anti-gunner" whatever that is exactly....I like most adults can use reason to determine things and do not have to resort to simple yes or no for a answer. :wavey:

    Just saw where you posted the same kind of crap in a different thread "BS LEO selective anti-gun nuts." Stop looking for "anti-gunners" behind every rock. :whistling:
     

  3. Ruble Noon

    Ruble Noon "Cracker"

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    Yet I can buy as much diesel or gasoline as I want. Should we regulate the purchase of gasoline or diesel down to five gallons? We do want you to be relatively secure from your fears after all.
     
  4. Ruggles

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    You are like a blind drunk guy throwing darts.....all over the place. How did we go from the 2nd A to breeding? :rofl:

    Besides I already have 3 kids so too late :tongueout:
     
  5. lunarspeak

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    you guys keep chirping about freedom but its starting to seem like you guys are just so paranoid that you think you need a RPG to be safe..


    you dont have to look at "the people of walmart" to have a argument about why we dont need these rules appealed you only have to look at the people of glocktalk.

    you guys are always talking about shooting anyone that comes into your yards..overthrowing the goverment,battleing
    the forces of evil (or what you percieve as evil) your the ones that the NFA laws protect us from.
     
  6. kenpoprofessor

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    But you are an anti gunner, and anti freedom, you just can't admit you're a statist. I'm far from being an anarchist, I believe there has to be structure and laws, but within the bounds of the Constitution and BOR. Many of the SCOTUS decisions have run contrary to the these documents, because there were/are people on the court like you.

    Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

    Clyde
     
  7. kenpoprofessor

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    No, it's an identical argument, it's regulating a right that clearly says "shall not be infringed". There is no such matter concerning procreation, so, it can be regulated, under the commerce clause no less.

    What a shame, I can only hope your children turn out to be better citzens than yourself.

    Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

    Clyde
     
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    Never heard of the "slippery slope", huh? :rofl:
     
  9. Ruggles

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    Buy away, nothing stopping you except local laws and regulations from storing what fuel you will.

    But that has nothing to do with the matter at hand. Surplus RPGs, grenades, SAMs or surplus 500lbs bombs are not in the same category as your fuel example. Weak example of comparison and you know it. Again this is not a yes or no question, it is a question where there is a reasonable answer between the two.
     
  10. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    I really don't think I need an RPG to be safe. However, I don't think it should be the government's place to to infringe on that right, as clearly stated in the 2A.

    It is not about having confidence in people with firearms. If it was an idiot test 50 percent of folks owning firearms would have to relinquish them. Then again, if it was an idiot test to breed we could shrink the populace by about 70 percent.

    The right has nothing to do with ability. Frankly, ability has gone down hill because we are are more urban, do far less hunting, and typically aren't raised in a culture where firearms are viewed as what they are-tools. Media hype, ignorance, and fear have created an ineptitude and wusification when it comes to firearms.

    Wrong, I am talking about original intent, history, and what the 2A actually meant and means.

    Laws only protect society from the law abiding. The cirminal element has always had, and will always have these same said "scary weapons".
     
  11. Ruggles

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    I get it 100% your way and views or I am anti freedom huh? No room for debate since you view is so infallible :rofl:

    The COTUS and the BOR were huge compromises and were endlessly debated when created, your view that they are beyond that now is childish. :wavey:
     
  12. Ruggles

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    Ahhh extremist, they are so much fun to try and reason with. :rofl:

    So because I don't want Billie Bob toting around a SA7 near the airport I want to control his reproductive rights. Yeah that is a reasonable leap of logic from you. :whistling:

    My kids will be fine, but thanks for the concern :wavey:
     
  13. BossGodfrey

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    I guess only corrupt government officials should have those huh ?
     
  14. Ruble Noon

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    Yes they are different substances but could be misused to create much mayhem as you fear could happen with ownership of an RPG or a grenade. If you fear the misuse of an RPG why do you not fear the misuse of 500 gallons of gasoline?
    Do you fear the misuse of an AR with a Beta mag? If so, should we ban them to allay your fear?
     
  15. Bruce M

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    Out of curiosity can someone suggest some situation in which it might be appropriate and relatively safe to actually use a grenade or a RPG as opposed to just setting one off for fun? I can of course think of how millions of gallons of gasoline and diesel are used daily for good uses.
     
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    I grew up in a town of 100, so poor if we didn't have hunting success we often didn't eat. My parents were rail-thin from skipping meals because they didn't have enough money to feed themselves too. Don't assume you know a damn thing about me because of a username, your majesty.
     
  17. Ruggles

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    Really? Comparing a idiot/nutjob with 500 gallons of gas and the same person with a RPG/grenade? Show me a guy carrying around 500 gallons of fuel, just one example of a man carrying that around. Have a little real world perspective in your post at least.

    Who said anything about magazine capacity limits? I did not. I do not support them. Leaping to conclusion does not make your point stronger, it in fact weakens it.

    And I am not setting any laws or regulations, that is society as a whole doing so thru the elective process. So my fears are not in question here, I think you mean to question society's fears.
     
  18. Ruggles

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    Why when the evil American military is storming their house of course. They after all are the last few true patriots standing between the last bit of freedom America has and the corrupt tyrannical planners in D.C. :rofl:
     
  19. Ruggles

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    Hmm I was under the impression that our all volunteer military had those, does Big O have one in his room? Is Obama sticking a RPG under his bed these days? :rofl:

    I would hope you are not implying that our military is corrupt and just waiting for the order to turn on the citizens. If you are you have no understanding of who exactly is in uniform. :wavey:
     
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