Went to a gun show today in B'ham, AL. Haven't been to one there in almost a year. Had to admit, it was one of the best shows I've seen there in a long time. Well, a dealer had a NIB G-17 Generation 4. I love the new smaller grip size, the not so rough grip as I felt w/the RTF. Like the idea of 2 extra back straps sizes. And the ambi-mag release option is nice for us that shoot left handed. (No comments please) Couldn't get to the price I wanted. And like I said, I was just looking. Bu-u-u-t, with 3 three mags and got real close to the price I wanted, and it was the only G-17 4th Gen. there, what the hell. I never didn't get what I ordered for our last anniversary. So I guess I can say this makes up for that. (Hey, that's a pretty good excuse). Really, have to say, my wife never cares if I bring home a new toy. Only gets pissed if I say "Boy I wish I had gone and bought that". It'll be about 2 weeks before I can test run it. Can't wait.