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I pushed trigger forward while slide was off on my G21.

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Z71bill, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. Z71bill

    Z71bill

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    After putting a few hundred more rounds through my GEN4 G21- I cleaned & oiled it.

    A few days later I noticed a little oil on the side if the trigger -

    I did not try to oil the trigger - figure a drop must have gotten down there by accident.

    Being OCD I take the slide off and try to wipe the excess oil from this area -

    I ended up pushing the trigger slightly forward while the slide was off - it would not go back to the rear.

    I put the slide back on - it was not as easy to do as normal - and the trigger goes forward like is should - first trigger pull felt a little strange - but the gun now seems fine - I don't think I messed anything up.

    MY QUESTIONS:

    What would happen if I push the trigger all the way forward while the slide was off?

    Will it mess up something?

    How should I get the trigger to return back (like gun was fired) with the slide off.

    Never noticed this - trigger staying back after taking slide off with other guns - is this something unique to Glock?

    Anything I should be concerned with about my trigger - like something I should check for damage?
     
  2. GThirtyTwo

    GThirtyTwo Amor patriae

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    I have not got the slightest clue what you are talking about, but by punching the pins out the entire frame innards can be removed very easily by someone with the mechanical skills of a chimpanzee, so if the trigger feels normal now I would not worry about it.

    You can actually move the trigger bar forward and backward and dry fire the frame without the slide attached as well.
     

  3. scosgt

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    You can pull the trigger with the slide off. No damage.
    Just push it back forward. I do it all the time.
     
  4. Z71bill

    Z71bill

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    I only pushed it part way forward - it would not go back - Normal?

    So push it all the way ahead - then trigger should be able to pulled - even with slide off?
     
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  5. lethal tupperwa

    lethal tupperwa

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    you push it all the way forward then gently pull the trigger.
     
  6. Z71bill

    Z71bill

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    After it was 1/2 way forward and would not go back I figured I messed up something - so I put the slide back on

    Must be something that blocks the trigger from returning to the rear if it is only part way forward.


    Next time I clean will try dry firing with the slide off.
     
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  7. kodiakpb

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    Not a good idea to pull the trigger with the slide off. You can damage the trigger safety.
     
  8. robhic

    robhic WOLVERINE!!!! Platinum Member Silver Member

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    As long as you put a finger behind the part on the trigger bar that pushes the striker safety pin up so the trigger bar doesn't "fire" unimpeded, you should be OK. Push it forward, just don't pull the trigger so the slideless frame "fires." Holding the trigger bar should work for you. It does for me....
     
  9. scosgt

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    What?
    I have done it thousands of times on at least 5 different Glocks.
    It does NO harm. NONE.
    And even if it did, it is simple enough to replace a part like the trigger bar.
    However, it does no harm.

    If you think it does, please explain how.
     
  10. lethal tupperwa

    lethal tupperwa

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    They tell a different story.

    (Are you sure you are right and the factory people are wrong?)
     
  11. scosgt

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    No. But tell me what you can break. Other than the tip hitting the FPS, it appears exactly the same force is imparted slide on or off, so explain where the issue lies.

    Again, I have done this many many times and all my Glocks still work perfectly. So tell me what "can" break, I can tell you for a fact that nothing "will" break (as opposed to "can break").
     
  12. alexhartang

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    Don't sweat it, it's a Glock.


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  13. dbyer1

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    Per glock it can damage the trigger safety or where the trigger safety touches the frame with the slide off push forward on the tigger bar with one hand then press the trigger and gently let it down with your figure still on the trigger bar I use the piece on the trigger bar the pushes up on the firing pin safety
     
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  15. lethal tupperwa

    lethal tupperwa

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    You know I "learned a lot of things about Glocks"

    Then took the armorers course and learned what I had been taught

    was NOT what they teach.

    Who you gonna believe some internet wizzard

    or the factory?
     
  16. whitey4311

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    Its no big deal.

    Just press the trigger bar forward toward the muzzle and keep pressure on it as you pull the trigger back to the rear. The safety on the actual trigger is catching on the frame is all. The part you are pressing forward is the tip of the trigger bar that engages the safety block.

    I do this to be sure I have everything working properly after a detail strip and to spread the oil on the connector. Just keep that thumb pressure on the trigger bar as you pull the trigger back and forth.
     
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  17. denn1911

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    This is my understanding as well.
     
  18. 125K9

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    I'll not enter this debate other than to say next time, just leave the slide on and wipe the excess oil off. It won't hurt anything.
     
  19. Z71bill

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    I dropped the mag - made sure gun was unloaded -

    Wiped the oil off the trigger -

    Dry fired it a few times - oil returned - wiped it off

    Dry fired it a few more times - oil returned

    I figured a drop of oil must be in there just waiting to collect a bunch of powder residue! :nailbiting:

    Plus I don't really want oil on my trigger -

    :wavey:
     
  20. NDCent

    NDCent Socially Inept

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    That's what she said. :tongueout: