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I LOATHE my HOA!!

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by J.Kill, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. HexHead

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    I've lived in two townhouse communities, one with a HOA and one without. The one without ended up as mostly rental properties, units with three different Mexican families living in them, trash everywhere, junkie cars, weeds growing up through the gravel driveways, unkempt lawns. It was the only place I've lived I ended up losing value on.

    My current townhouse has an HOA. Every week, the landscapers come and cut the grass, trim and care for the beds. Twice a week, the trash is picked up right from the containers in my carport. Two years ago, we got new roofs. Last year wood trim was repaired and painted, with new gutters installed. The parking areas and alleys between the carports were resurfaced. For the last six years, I've been on the board of managers, so I can keep any crazy rules from being implemented. I like this lifestyle.

    For you couple of guys that think it should make no difference to your neighbor's value if you cut your lawn or not or have cars parked on the grass. Well, it will make it much harder for them to sell with you as a neighbor. Makes a really poor first impression, and it's more likely they'll only be able to sell to an investor wanting to use it as rental property. Enjoy your new Section 8 neighbors.
     
  2. ROGER4314

    ROGER4314 Friends Call Me "Flash"

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    Our neighborhood is on a dead end street with 26 homes. It's a quiet place where everyone knows everyone else and we look out for each other. We had deed restrictions but with no HOA to enforce them, they were worthless.

    A man bought two lots and made it clear that he was going to put a Diesel truck repair shop right in the middle of our little community. He heard our complaints and told us to F off. We found the property that he owned in a nearby town and took pictures of it. It was a junkyard and rat hole! We spread those around and the HOA vote was a slam dunk!

    All 26 homeowners voted to form the HOA to enforce the deed restrictions already in place. In fact, some of the restrictions were very tough and we loosened them up. The Diesel Repair shop is no more. and our HOA policy says that if you have a beef with your neighbor.....go talk to him as the HOA is not the neighborhood complaint department or community police department. The HOA is there to protect our property values and quiet lifestyle.

    Our dues are $8 per month and we stash the funds in an account in case Mr Diesel wants to make another run at his plan.

    HOA's aren't always bad. They are as good as the people who set up and run them! In our case, the HOA saved our community property values and lifestyle from the actions of a total jerk!

    Flash
     

  3. NorthCarolinaLiberty

    NorthCarolinaLiberty MentalDefective

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    No, not at all. Just like workers who are not forced to join a union when they contract with a private employer.
     
  4. TK-421

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    Dude... Where the hell do you live? I want to live there. :wow:
     
  5. NorthCarolinaLiberty

    NorthCarolinaLiberty MentalDefective

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    The only thing more laughable is Americans who dupe themselves. Soviet style tactics are not even needed for people like you.
     
  6. Sporaticus

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    I know the type. I've worked with them, and lived amongst them. I know how they are and can be.

    The great lawn feud was very educational, then I started seeing the same mentality in my neighbors, and our HOA isn't run by oppressive Nazi's. But the snitches are pretty much the same wherever they are, and they have the same "protect my home value" mentality.
     
  7. ROGER4314

    ROGER4314 Friends Call Me "Flash"

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    An interesting result of or community HOA vote was that every homeowner started keeping their property neater and well tended. Not a word was said to anyone but we had an new awareness that every property affected the value of every other property. In all, the HOA was a very positive influence on our little neighborhood.

    Is that Socialism? We have always looked out for each other and if you break into my house and begin packing stuff out, one of my neighbors will shoot your asx! We call that being a good neighbor!

    Flash
     
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  8. IGotIt

    IGotIt No Demlibtards

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    Buyers have the choice to live in a HOA controlled community or not. I chose to have the HOA because the community is kept up nicely. We don't have barking dogs, we don't have cars parked on lawns, we don't have the backyard mechanics working on cars in the streets or their yards, we don't have trash strewn about, we don't have houses painted pink or blue, or whatever color you can buy from Home Depot, we don't have flower pots, wind chimes and other trailer park accessories hanging from trees or front porches, and I could go on.

    Are they perfect? Not if the board members are on a power trip, but if you have a good board and cooperative homeowners, it's quite nice.
     
  9. ray9898

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    Wow....who would have thought a scenario such as when people freely enter a contract to live in a HOA regulated community is equal to living in opression such as by a Commie or Nazi government. Only on GT does emotional ignorant blather like this get posted.
     
  10. Glock&KimberLady

    Glock&KimberLady Morior Invictus Silver Member

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    I have both...a home on acreage with no HOAs and a condo that does have an HOA.

    The HOA at the condo provides mostly for exterior repairs, paint, and snow removal (the biggie). It's bloody expensive (goes with the location) but I figure it's worth it, given the design of the parking lot and the necessity for DAILY snow removal during the high points of winter.

    The house...I'm at the end of the road and nobody bugs us. And yeah, I can shoot my guns (or crank my stereo) whenever I feel like it. I also have to drive an hour minimum to buy ANYTHING in town (half hour there and back). The twice monthly grocery trip takes four hours, minimum.

    *shrugs*. Tradeoffs. Read the HOAS, abide by the rules, and if you don't like the rules, don't buy the property.
     
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  11. ray9898

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    It really is that simple. If you agree to the stipulations of the community it really can be a benefit to join with other like minded people. If you do not agree or are not responsible enough to abide by the terms yet still choose to enter the contract then complaining when you are penalized for breaking the terms is really a futile effort.
     
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  12. tantrix

    tantrix J'aimeLouisiane

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    How about the guy in the HOA who ended up arrested because he couldn't get his grass to grow? You're right though...it isn't just about lawns, it's about EVERYTHING cosmetic.




    Uh...ok.
     
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  13. Glock&KimberLady

    Glock&KimberLady Morior Invictus Silver Member

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    Look, the only way I can get TV or Internet is with a dish mounted on my deck at the condo. Considering we are there every.single.weekend and additional days from November to April, it would nice to watch TV and surf the net....not watch Mr. GKL/kids crack out on XBox and have to use my (rather unreliable) hotspot for internet or watch DVDs.

    I did not know this until after I bought the condo.

    However, I'm not mounting a dish anyway and flipping the bird to the HOA. The rules are what they are, and I could've bought a condo elsewhere on the mountain. I didn't and oh well, those are the rules.
     
  14. J.Kill

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    :upeyes:

    Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the OP. I am waiting on a new sticker...
     
  15. Sporaticus

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    Don't let the hall monitor bother you. He was up late patrolling the neighborhood, measuring the height of the grass, and seeing who hadn't pulled their weeds, or who left the flag on their mailbox half way up. :rofl::rofl:
     
  16. tantrix

    tantrix J'aimeLouisiane

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    :rofl: :rofl:
     
  17. Gallium

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    We live in a "semi-gated" community, with no HOA. We don't have any problems.

    My crib closer to NYC is a "co-op", and I've been there for a slew of years, never a problem there either.

    When I drive my small 4 cylinder banger car, I don't expect a comfy luxurious ride. When I drive my V8, 18ft 5000lb SUV I don't expect fuel economy.


    Any of the "dings" I've gotten from the co-op are just a part of the territory. Kinda like I expect to get a $125 parking ticket when I go into NYC.
     
  18. .264 magnum

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    Really, so by that do you mean you don't care about your home's value?
     
  19. .264 magnum

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    FYI - there is an FCC imposed federal regulation that disallows HOAs to limit or forbid the installation of satellite dishes.

    Check it out.
     
  20. Sporaticus

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    The third time I had my home appraised, it was $50 million lower than the previous appraisal. When I asked the appraiser why, he pointed to a dandelion in the neighbors yard, and said as long as my neighbor had that in his yard, my home would never be worth more than $400 million. Then he pointed to a flag on the other neighbors mailbox: it was half way up, and said that cost me another $30 million in value. I quickly ran over and put the flag down, and he adjusted the value up, but he wouldn't let me pick that dandelion. Imagine that. I realized then that some things were just beyond my control.

    I'm a little different than people like you. I chose an area based on the 3 most important factors: location, location, location. I know all those petty little piss ant things don't have the first thing to do with property value.

    I know some idiots who think colored Christmas lights in the neighborhood hurt their property value, and protest loudly when their neighbors use them.

    "Protect my property value" is a phrase coined for busy bodies, snitches, $%tches, putzes, and wannabees. It's kind of a status symbol for the lame. For the "low brow" seeking "high brow" status.