If I ever find someone that has ever written a virus I will torture them to for days. The jail time would be worth it. I just found the toughest trojan I have ever seen. A coworker brought in his PC and told me he got "Antivirus 2009". He tried to get rid of it, but IE was still redirecting him constantly. I did some research and found what I needed to fix it. Unfortunately whoever wrote this thing knew what could kill it. I tried everything to install and run the programs. The only way I could get them to work was to rename the .exe. I have never heard of such a thing. Scans are running as I type, we'll see if I can tackle it. Would have been much easier to reformat and reinstall, but I like a Challenge.