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I got scared tonight. My G23 Jammed!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by thegriz18, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. thegriz18

    thegriz18 Paper Killer

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    This is the first time in 6 years and over 20k+ rounds this gun has jammed. I think it was a magazine spring issue since the bullet (Blazer Brass 165 grain FMJ) nose dived into the bottom of the feed ramp. I was using my 10 round range magazines that I've had for 6 years. Never replaced the springs. I think they are getting weak. My 13 round carry mags still work well so I'm not concerned about that. Still though, I was a little pissed that my pistol jammed.

    One other thing I thought could be the problem was the recoil spring. I'm using the same spring that the pistol came with, and I know most of them last for hundreds of thousands of rounds, but I wonder if mine is a little weak. It is so easy to rack the slide. Much easier than when I first bought the pistol. I doubt this was the issue tonight as the slide did attempt to feed the round. I posted a recreated picture with a snap cap for everyone's viewing pleasure. Feel free to post your opinion. My opinion is a weak magazine spring. Thanks.
     
  2. IMightBeWrong

    IMightBeWrong Straw Dog

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    Recoil springs are recommended to be changed at around 3000 I think, so I'd get a new spring there as well as a few new magazine springs. It's not an expensive endeavor and taking care of your weapon will help ensure your weapon takes care of you.
     

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    i'd replace the springs on the guide rod and magazines...20k rounds is A LOT
     
  4. thegriz18

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    I'll replace the recoil rod and spring soon. Mine is kind of bowed and my barrel has a wear mark from the spring on it. The magazine spring I'll just leave alone. It is a 10 round magazine and getting those apart is next to impossible. Plus, it is only a range magazine and I have others.

    Is this barrel wear normal?
     
  5. Just1More

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    Time for a new Glock!
     
  6. thegriz18

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    LOL I wish!!!!!! HAHA. I think this one has many, many, many, many, more rounds to go.

    I've got a stainless recoil rod in my G17, decent, works well. Should I splurge and put a wolff non captive with wolff springs in my baby?
     
  7. Kwanger

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    I'd go with a captured stainless rod from Glockmeister myself; cheaper and works just as well imo.

    Re the jam - sometimes **** just happens. While it could be a combinatin of worn parts and suchlike, it could also be a ton of other factors.
     
  8. Stuntman_Mike

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    My G23 did that at the range Tuesday night on the last round of the first mag.

    There was a noticeable indention on the follower where the casing ended. I scratched off the little bump with my pocket knife, and that fixed it.
     
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    i have magazines with springs that are almost 20 years old that still work fine...
     
  10. fortyofforty

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    Consider yourself lucky to have had only one failure in that long.
     
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    Whats the prob? Type 3 malfunction. Lock, strip, rack, insert, rack, point in.

    New spring might be a good idea to.
     
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    I haven't even gone through 500 rounds yet, but I'd say from the look of that picture if you're using a metal guide rod it's probably normal wear. That's why I like my plastic rod.

    That could cause it too. That's the only quirk I've found with my G23, the casings scratch up the followers. I let the line wear in to the follower, then sand it away a little and I've never had a malfunction.
     
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    if it only did it once I wouldnt worry about it but like others say I would swap the recoil assembly I just swaped out all mine on my 40 cals as they were about due. I can get over how much the price went up on Brownells from the couple I bought last year for my 9's but I chalk that up as sign of the times
     
  14. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

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    This.
     
  15. G36's Rule

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    First FTF in 20K???

    Non-issue. Really, all pistols will jam if owned and shot long enough. Tap, Rack, Bang. If that doesn't help, yank the mag, Rack repeatedly, load new mag, rack and bang.

    But I would replace the recoil spring at that many rounds.
     
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    Don't get pissed because you know what caused the jamming.

    I had my G 17 malfunctioned twice, one stovepipe and a hang-up at the hood. I was not sure but that was more like my grip. After those two incidents, it shoot fine without a single hiccup.
     
  17. thegriz18

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    I am using the stock guide rod. It is a little bowed and that was what I thought could be causing the wear mark.

    So what's the overall opinion- New stock recoil rod or stainless? I'm not sure which I want to get.
     
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    Why is the round painted red?
     
  19. thegriz18

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    Its an A-Zoom Snap Cap Dummy Round.
     
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    get new springs,its a cheap repair!