Thanks for all the info and some a the humor that you all had in my previous post about the glock 34 , I liked it enough that I went on ahead and bought one from the store Locally. It was 520 otd and it is an IE/Mil gun(us army) and has fixed sites and extended slide release and mag release. My next thing is ordering a front and rear sight tool from glock and more mags and ammo. being a certified armorer will help with extra parts. Maybe sell my 17 I dont think I really need both, it has less then 500 rounds still looks brand new, sorry, Im rambling, not trying to turn this into a WTS,yet . what is a good all around sight for the 34 for carry/SD or competition if one sight could fit both roles probably IDPA. well thanks for the input.tell me wat you think.