[X-Centric]

I’m old fashioned in many ways and a purist as well and maybe that’s why some of the new age things of today don‘t float my boat. Nowadays too many people want to change the names of things or what we call the way we do things. Being this is a firearms forum I’ll keep it related to firearms only.
Ever since the first gun we’ve called them a gun, firearm or weapon as well as some “cool” sounding nicknames. But now we hear it called a platform. A friend asked me the other day what type of “platform” do I prefer to conceal carry? I had to stop and think but assumed correctly and said a semi-automatic handgun. I thought why didn’t he just ask me if I carried a revolver or automatic? Does he think it makes him sound smarter, more up to date, hip or “cooler” by calling it a platform? For us civilians a platform is what workers stand on when they have to work on something high up in the air. The Military has different types of firearm platforms and they are all larger than a handgun or a rifle.
And how about being asked “what carry system do you employ for CCW?” I don’t employ any carry system, I use a dang holster. It’s not a system it’s a device for carrying my gun.....Duh!
How about being asked this, “how close were you to deploying your firearm”? I don’t know about you, but I would pull my firearm if I needed it but not deploy it.
Hopefully the day will never come when I write to you fine people and say………………. “Last night two gang bangers tried to rob me. I went to Wally World and being the weather was nice my revolver was the platform of choice. I had a light jacket on so my carry system was a Don Hume Jit-slide. After shopping I went to my car and the bad guys approached me but ran off after I deployed my platform from my carry system”. I wonder if I said it like that how many of you old fashioned purists like me would know what the heck I said? But I know if I said ““Last night two gang bangers tried to rob me. I went to Wally World and being the weather was nice I brought my favorite revolver. I had a light jacket on so I wore my Don Hume Jit-slide. After shopping I went to my car and the bad guys approached me but ran off after I pulled my SP-101 from my holster”, everyone would know what the heck I said

 

[Batesmotel]

Guys who wish they had served in some high speed spec-op military unit talk that way to sound impressive.

 

[jl1288]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:I hear ya.They make me laff.

I’m old fashioned in many ways and a purist as well and maybe that’s why some of the new age things of today don‘t float my boat. Nowadays too many people want to change the names of things or what we call the way we do things. Being this is a firearms forum I’ll keep it related to firearms only.
Ever since the first gun we’ve called them a gun, firearm or weapon as well as some “cool” sounding nicknames. But now we hear it called a platform. A friend asked me the other day what type of “platform” do I prefer to conceal carry? I had to stop and think but assumed correctly and said a semi-automatic handgun. I thought why didn’t he just ask me if I carried a revolver or automatic? Does he think it makes him sound smarter, more up to date, hip or “cooler” by calling it a platform? For us civilians a platform is what workers stand on when they have to work on something high up in the air. The Military has different types of firearm platforms and they are all larger than a handgun or a rifle.
And how about being asked “what carry system do you employ for CCW?” I don’t employ any carry system, I use a dang holster. It’s not a system it’s a device for carrying my gun.....Duh!
How about being asked this, “how close were you to deploying your firearm”? I don’t know about you, but I would pull my firearm if I needed it but not deploy it.
Hopefully the day will never come when I write to you fine people and say………………. “Last night two gang bangers tried to rob me. I went to Wally World and being the weather was nice my revolver was the platform of choice. I had a light jacket on so my carry system was a Don Hume Jit-slide. After shopping I went to my car and the bad guys approached me but ran off after I deployed my platform from my carry system”. I wonder if I said it like that how many of you old fashioned purists like me would know what the heck I said? But I know if I said ““Last night two gang bangers tried to rob me. I went to Wally World and being the weather was nice I brought my favorite revolver. I had a light jacket on so I wore my Don Hume Jit-slide. After shopping I went to my car and the bad guys approached me but ran off after I pulled my SP-101 from my holster”, everyone would know what the heck I said

 

[jl1288]

Oh by the way, if you notice my avatar I don't need no stinkin holoreddotbattery operated gizmos on my ar. Not saying they don't have their place, but maybe some folks should be spending that money learning the basics instead of gussying up their "guns". Just my 1/2 cents worth.

 

[Triple7]

I right there with you......drives me nuts.

 

[Donn57]

I’m old fashioned in many ways and a purist as well and maybe that’s why some of the new age things of today don‘t float my boat. Nowadays too many people want to change the names of things or what we call the way we do things. Being this is a firearms forum I’ll keep it related to firearms only.
Ever since the first gun we’ve called them a gun, firearm or weapon as well as some “cool” sounding nicknames. But now we hear it called a platform. A friend asked me the other day what type of “platform” do I prefer to conceal carry? I had to stop and think but assumed correctly and said a semi-automatic handgun.

I agree 100%, but you helped perpetuate this nonsense by answering his question instead of looking at him like he'd just sprouted a pair of horns.

 

[glockerbob]

guys who wish they had served in some high speed spec-op military unit talk that way to sound impressive.

nailed it...........

 

[BailRecoveryAgent]

Its the classic old guy vs. new guy mentality. Half the time I don't even know what people are talking about when you overhear conversations in gun shops or training classes. Combat mentality, threat focus, threat engagement breathing, tactical this tactical that.

Firearms community isn't the only place this happens. Go hang out at a BBQ hosted by a Harley-Davidson dealer in the summer. You'll see old crusty bikers who haven't bathed or changed clothes in a year talking one way, and the skinny jeans, birth control glasses, spiky hair flannel shirt younguns talkin another.

 

[Cream Soda Kid]

Its the classic old guy vs. new guy mentality. Half the time I don't even know what people are talking about when you overhear conversations in gun shops or training classes. Combat mentality, threat focus, threat engagement breathing, tactical this tactical that.

Firearms community isn't the only place this happens. Go hang out at a BBQ hosted by a Harley-Davidson dealer in the summer. You'll see old crusty bikers who haven't bathed or changed clothes in a year talking one way, and the skinny jeans, birth control glasses, spiky hair flannel shirt younguns talkin another.

Off topic here but that’s a cool signature line regarding religion and being a Christian. And I read that article by Dave Spaulding, it was pretty good. But then, I’m a big fan of Mr. Spaulding’s articles.

 

[Toorop]

That is just the evolution of the CCW and OCW warriors.

 

[IndyGunFreak]

I agree.. however, I do look at a carry set up as a "system" (although probably not in the way you're talking) --- All parts are dependent on the others. You can't expect a $100 holster to perform well, if it's hanging on a JC Penny designer belt. Just like you shouldn't expect a $20 holster to be awesome because you're hanging it on a $150 belt. By the same token, a $100 holster and a $150 belt, doesn't make a Lorcin the ideal carry weapon.

Maybe I look at the word "system" as different than the OP, but that's my thinking.

 

[Camu Mahubah]

You gotta remember a lot of younger people or even "weathered" people are new to these terms. So they read something on the almighty internet and then use the words in conversation. I do it all the time IRL when talking about AR-15's. A lot of my ar buds have been shooting them for years but they don't go the forums...so they thought when I said "Middy" my barrel was gonna be between a carbine and a rifle. Makes things confusing but not all of us are trying to be tacticool. I don't like the word "tactical" myself. I thought it was just gonna be a buzz word and not last long but it has took off like a rocketship...alas I must accept it...but I won't use it!

Don't hate the player...

 

[cowboywannabe]

its like when i heard my neighbor talking about how one of her co-workers was effected by "the non-voluntary reduction in personnel".

in other words he got layed off.

and that segways into the next opic.........

or the anti aerial assualt weapon, aka the fly fracker upper.

or having to partner with somebody to make a decision.

 

[29568]

You could do what I do. Answer inappropriately.

"I prefer to be on solid ground, rather than a platform. Platforms can be unstable and affect aim."

"I've never hired a system. I have hired employees from time to time, though, but I don't know if they carried concealed weapons."

"How close was I? Oh, I didn't really measure the distance. I was a little preoccupied at the moment."

So far, this approach has worked for me, and the expression on the other person's face can be quite amusing.

 

[IndyGunFreak]

Someone here did a funny video that made a mockery of some of the "terms" people throw around....

Some of them do sound overly "geeky".. but grammatically, they are correct. For instance, "Grip purchase" -- I was explaining something to a fellow gunner one time and used that term, and he looked at me like I had just lost my mind.

 

[X-Centric]

It goes beyond guns too. Remember when the Personnel Department was called that. Now it's Human Resources. It almost sounds like a body part business. Like I shot my finger off and I need a right male index finger. At the Police Department. Remenber Internal Affairs? Well now it's Professional Standards. Code enforcement is now Code Compliance. A terrorist attack is a man made disaster. It makes me want to go set my hair on fire or stab myself in the eye with a sharp stick!

 

[R4lf]

Its the classic old guy vs. new guy mentality. Half the time I don't even know what people are talking about when you overhear conversations in gun shops or training classes. Combat mentality, threat focus, threat engagement breathing, tactical this tactical that.

Firearms community isn't the only place this happens. Go hang out at a BBQ hosted by a Harley-Davidson dealer in the summer. You'll see old crusty bikers who haven't bathed or changed clothes in a year talking one way, and the skinny jeans, birth control glasses, spiky hair flannel shirt younguns talkin another.

I'm glad I am not the only person seeing these skinny jeans kids running around. It's sad knowing that is the next generation.

 

[kdm2]

The term that drives me crazy is "Operator" - heck no I don't work for the phone company, I'm a shooter.

 

[SuperSleuth]

I don't understand what you're talking about. Whenever I engage in a training evolution as an operator I utilize the appropriate carry system, which, of course, is built around a well-proven operational platform. Deployment of said gear is always first-and-foremost done after scanning the tactical environment as situational awareness is paramount. The goal is intercepting the attacker's OODA loop with an efficient response from the ammunition delivery system. This can be best accomplished with the proper kit. Of course, a true operator must plan for contingencies in case the scenario develops in such a way as to require deployment of an alternate response to resolve the conflict in a tactically-sound fashion.



:wavey:


*I think I just annoyed myself.

 

[Camu Mahubah]

I'm glad I am not the only person seeing these skinny jeans kids running around. It's sad knowing that is the next generation.

My wife calls them "Peter Pan Pants"...