I can't wait...

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  1. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Now they are going to send social workers to domestic disputes?

    Grab the popcorn cuz this is gonna be entertaining!

    Of course well all know that social workers are not gonna go alone. Not without a police escorts.

    Still, if I was the cop that had to go, " I'm just here to standby do your thing lady/guy."

    "Do you want my assistance to stop him/her kicking your ass/ killing you?" Sorry I don't understand"gurgle, gurgle" could you speak plainer?"
     
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    Gonna have to say that I agree. Especially when I hear social workers being interviewed on NPR stating unequivocally that they've been social workers for xx amount of years and have never been in fear for their safety and don't understand why LEOs have to respond violently to the mentally ill.

    I even hope they make it a huge pilot project where they're filmed ala COPS so their expectations and experiences are commemorated and can be used to educate the masses.

    Dan
     
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    Looks like those folks in college who majored in Social Work are about to be in demand.

    Problem 1: in the heat of the moment, a head shrink is not usually wanted or tolerated.

    Problem 2: I can think of at least a dozen different degree programs and non-degree “training” that qualify people to do “social work.” You’d be better off sending NFL Referees. (At least the training is consistent)

    Problem 3: Will the social workers be prepared to work at $40K/year, like cops who put their life on the line??? No, that won’t create any animosity.

    Problem 4: People I know, who call themselves “Social Workers” can’t even manage their own lives, let alone someone in a real-time crisis or breakdown.

    The OP is right. Get the popcorn ready.
     
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    When these idiots with their heads stuck up in the thin Utopian air finally realize that officers’ are the long arm of legislators who make the laws and that they(officers’) are only there to enforce their(legislators’) will with at least the implied threat of the use of force, maybe things will change.

    If these poor social workers show up, trying to do the will of the legislators without at least the implied threat of the use of force, I can only see many of these do-gooders getting their arses handed to them - shot, arses kicked, stabbed, raped, clubbed, rocked, etc, etc.

    Also, will these civilian units have emergency response authority when responding? At the most, I can see some civvie do-gooder assigned as a ‘partner’ to a patrol officer. Even then, I’m sure that would turn into a mess for all the right reasons.
     
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    I'll be in my car waiting. that way my presence doesn't unnecessarily create anxiety when the social worker does their magic. just tell them to come out and get me if needed
     
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    Just have the county/state DEPUTIZE the social workers to handle DOMESTIC DISPUTES ONLY.


    Then no officer would have to escort them.:laughing:
     
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    What could possibly go wrong? :nutcheck:
     
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    Having worked with a never ending parade of these eleitist mental health snobs over the years, I have absolutely no sympathy for their upcoming plight, and I will avoid assisting them at every opportinity. This is their mess, let them deal with it.
     
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    Yup.
     
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    Most agencies do not have the personnel to double team calls requiring multiple officers such as DV, assaults in progress, disorderlies, etc. There is no way a cop is going to sit by for 120 minutes while someone does an initial intervention on an EDP.

    Make it an off-duty gig at 1.5x hour rate of pay and there will be some one there to sit all day and everyday while 'Lucy van Pelt, amateur psychiatrist' issues a diagnosis and treatment regimen.
     
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    I am all for sending 'social workers' into calls. Just put them under the FD/EMS brand and keep the PD out of it.

    Most FD's love expanding their roles and this is more up their alley.
     
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    And hey, it's not like the fire guys were doing anything anyway....
     
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    CSB/ JFS/Social Workers/Mental Health Counselors have a hell of a way of taking a docile situation and cranking it up to 11.

    Then they call us and want us to put bracelets on people.


    Good luck!
     
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    Tomcat1977 "Cynical Little me"

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    Not ours. They know better. They wont even go into any kind of service without the Police if a dispute is going on.
     
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    A local FD has 'crisis intervention specialists' that show up in $80,000 Mercedes Sprinter vans and much more equipment to deal with victims of house fires, drownings, fatal accidents, etc.

    All they need to do is force out the volunteers to another role, hire people with counseling/social work degrees, and pay them $35,000 annually to respond to calls.

    No association with PD, no weapons, no immediate stigma, and let FD deal with equipping them, staffing, quartering them, training, and dealing with some of society's problem children.
     
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    I actually LOVE that idea!!! These idiots, if somehow assigned on the LE side will eventually start increasing their powers as the negative experiences add up. Since FD are in the med business, mental health problems are right up their alley. Instead of an officer sitting with a psychiatric hold for hours until a facility accepts them, I can see someone on the FD side doing that instead of polishing their trucks or cooking for the group.

    Jokes aside, the FD side really is the place for this since they already deal with the med part of their response. Also, they already have emergency response authority.
     
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    Cranking up people? Want PD as an 'always there' back up?

    Sorry. We're dealing with defunding, cops quitting, everyone answering Pri-1 calls, and a case of the blue flu.
     
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    DaleGribble Liberals 'R Bad!!!!

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    Here's the problem with your statement, you're really not seeing every side of mental health. I'm in mental health, but on the medical side, not the therapy side. And I promise you, with every part of my soul, there's a huge difference.

    The "social workers" and therapist bleeding hearts, making idiotic decisions, are probably the ones you're used to dealing with. I hate dealing with most of them as they're horrible decision-makers and could literally **** up a bag of dicks. Most (not all) people on the medical side of mental health roll their eyes at the therapist/social worker side.

    Once a few of them get their brains blown out, or kidnapped, raped, and then murdered, you guys will be back to responding to mental health calls.
     
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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Ours too, the big hero's wouldn't even set foot in certain sections of town without a police escorts.
     
  20. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Will they get their own recliners at the FD?
     
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