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  1. itisbruno

    itisbruno Devious Member CLM

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    A truck or van jumps the curb heading toward pedestrians.

    You have your everyday carry items on you.

    You are always mindful of the 4 rules of firearm safety.

    What action, if any, do you take to attempt to stop the vehicle in a crowded public area?
     
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  2. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger Jive Tiger

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    First - stop having so many affairs. Eventually you're gonna get caught.

    Second - I think that is a scenario that is a nightmare. Probably no sure-fire way to know if it is intentional or not, and likely no way to stop it with a carry firearm.

    I'd yell for everyone to get out of the way and try to help the injured. And watch the van to make sure no BGs with guns got out.
     

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    Statistically, I'm betting a medical condition with the driver would be the reason. Call 911 and help with first aid.
     
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    Gun isn't going to stop a van... as always first call for assistance, help the injured, watch be alert in case of something else
     
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    as a pedestrian i would make sure i was out of harms way.

    if there was a cute chick i could maybe score some hero points with i might try n do something for her.

    i dont typically carry a rocket propelled grenade or anything suitable for redirecting 3+ tons of metal with momentum, so short of bug out not much i can do.
     
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    Sniffler Unruly Silver Member

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    tsmo1066 Happy Smiley

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    There's really no way to know based on what you posted if the van is jumping the curb and heading towards pedestrians because of an intentional action, or because the driver has had a brake failure/heart attack/tire blowout, etc.

    It doesn't sound like there's much I could do except watch and try to help any injured victims.

    ...Now if the guy climbs out of his van with a knife after running over a few folks and starts screaming "Aloha Snackbar!" while gutting bystanders, then my CHL comes into play.
     
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    I'll agree with the others, the most you can really do is after carnage damage control. Unless it's coming straight for you and you can see the person driving then not much can be done.
    When the van makes it obvious by repeatedly turning and aiming for groups of people, it's still pretty much impossible to do anything with a handgun that's going to be useful while the van is moving.
    After you've determined that it is indeed a terrorist attack, even if you shoot the engine block, very few pistols are going to do enough damage to instantly stop an engine.
    So as others have stated, follow the van, and once it's stopped then go after the driver. Until then, you can't do a whole lot.
     
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  10. rock_castle

    rock_castle Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

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    Get me and my loved ones out of the way and safe. Keep an eye on the van as I call 911 in case the driver gets out and attacks.
     
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    Good every day carry item to stop the truck or van
    [​IMG]

    Not so good every day carry item to try to stop truck or van

    [​IMG]
    :rofl::rofl:
     
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    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

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    GTFOTW... try to warn as many as possible while getting my own self to safety. Once safe, assess, if there is still a threat then neutralize, if no threat assess injured and assist until proper authorities arrive.
     
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    I thought this was going to be another mailman rape scenario.
     
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    Haldor Formerly retired EE.

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    Run like hell. Has anyone considered that one of the best ways to increase the body count of a car bomb is to drive it into a crowd of people first. Run over a few then stop and wait for the crowd to start beating on the windows. Then trigger the bomb.

    A car attack very likely means a suicidal driver (one way or the other their life is over). No way am I getting anywhere near that car by my own choice.
     
  15. Kentucky Shooter

    Kentucky Shooter NRA Life Member

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    Like others have said, you can't stop it with your carry piece. If you make a snap judgment and fire and you were wrong and it was a case of the driver's brakes failed, medical emergency, etc...then you are going to jail.

    A case of run and CYA unless the driver exits the vehicle attempting to inflict more harm.
     
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    Wait......ANOTHER one? We had one of those?
     
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    SC Tiger Jive Tiger

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    One of these will do it but won't bring it to a dead stop:

    [​IMG]
    (Ithaca Mag 10 Roadblocker)
     
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    Glocktalk answer: Wife deploys the trauma plates to catch any incoming rounds while I assemble the NEF and take the driver and any accomplices out with a headshot.



    Real answer: Run away and call 911. If I wasn't injured by the initial 'attack' (or drunk driver, or medical whatever), I'd still be worried about secondaries.
     
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    Get as far away from the van as possible. Try to put a building between you and the van in case it's a bomb. Once you're clear, call 911. There's really nothing much else you can do, except help tend to any wounded in the aftermath. You're not going to stop a multi-ton vehicle with a handgun.
     
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  20. Kentucky Shooter

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    Yes, exactly right, you could shoot the tires out, put a .357 size hole in the radiator, or even get lucky and hit something under the hood to instantly kill the engine, the momentum will still allow the damage to be done.
     
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