I recently bought a box of Federal hydra-shok 165 grain JHP's, I tend to prefer 230 grain jhp's but these were advertised as high energy/low recoil. After firing one 8 round clip I was very impressed, I could definaly notice the reduced recoil, making follow up shots easier, the bullets have a metal rod in the hollow point, which I believe helps expansion. I intend to use these for my conceal carry rounds. My question is, do you think the 165 grain is a powerful enough load, or should I stick with the 230 grain or 185gr rounds? I have a 1911 compact and tend to stay away from +p ammo, but I am looking for a quality round that has good stoping power. Hornady makes a 185 grain bullet that has a cap over the hollow point, those are also on my next "try-ouy" list. But I did like the low recoil on these hydra shoks, but I want to make sure I am loaded with the right ammo for personal protection. Any advise would be greatly appreciated, Thanks guys.